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Attributes | |
ACN | 446909 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dpa.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dpa.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dpa.tower |
Make Model Name | MU-2 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 1385 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 446909 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 250 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was with a student flying right closed traffic on runway 33 at dpa. There were several other planes in the pattern, plus inbound and outbound traffic. It was busy, but average for a summer evening at dpa. The tower controller, at times, seemed to be having trouble staying on top of things. On several occasions he would call planes by the n-number of other planes in the pattern. At one point, he cleared an MU2 to depart runway 10 with the instruction to turn right to 270 degrees. He gave the MU2 no warning that there was traffic in the pattern for runway 33. We were on right crosswind at this time and were not warned about the departing MU2. I watched the MU2 departing runway 10 while thinking about how to stay out of his way. I told my student to keep our base in tight, as I did not want to get in a position where we couldn't see the MU2. On base, I saw the MU2 at the same altitude, approximately 250 ft north of us, just starting his right turn. The tower then called 'do you see the cessna on right base?' the MU2 replied in a surprised voice 'I do now!' the tower replied 'I didn't expect you to turn there.' this is not by any means the first time I've found the pattern at dpa to be disorganized and dangerous. The controller in charge at the time of this incident in particular has regularly been lax in giving aircraft information on locations of other aircraft in the pattern, and clarifying airplane's position in the landing sequence. He also ties up the tower frequency when things are busy scolding pilots for transponder malfunctions and not giving entire xmissions on initial call-up, items that should be addressed on ground after the plane has landed. He sometimes does not give full instructions, eg, the other evening after landing on runway 10, I was told, while rolling out, 'hold short of runway 33.' the full transmission should have been, 'turn left on taxiway C, hold short of runway 33.' this airport sees a heavy traffic load with a lot of training flts. The tower needs to do a much better job of communicating and act in a more professional and responsible manner or there will almost certainly be a midair collision. I came very close on aug/xa/99. I have over 10 yrs of flying experience, mostly at tower controled airports, and I have never experienced such a poorly controled airspace. Tower operations at dpa need to be investigated and improvements made!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT IN A C150 HAVE AN NMAC WITH AN MU2 THAT TOOK OFF ON A DIFFERENT RWY.
Narrative: I WAS WITH A STUDENT FLYING R CLOSED TFC ON RWY 33 AT DPA. THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER PLANES IN THE PATTERN, PLUS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TFC. IT WAS BUSY, BUT AVERAGE FOR A SUMMER EVENING AT DPA. THE TWR CTLR, AT TIMES, SEEMED TO BE HAVING TROUBLE STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS HE WOULD CALL PLANES BY THE N-NUMBER OF OTHER PLANES IN THE PATTERN. AT ONE POINT, HE CLRED AN MU2 TO DEPART RWY 10 WITH THE INSTRUCTION TO TURN R TO 270 DEGS. HE GAVE THE MU2 NO WARNING THAT THERE WAS TFC IN THE PATTERN FOR RWY 33. WE WERE ON R XWIND AT THIS TIME AND WERE NOT WARNED ABOUT THE DEPARTING MU2. I WATCHED THE MU2 DEPARTING RWY 10 WHILE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO STAY OUT OF HIS WAY. I TOLD MY STUDENT TO KEEP OUR BASE IN TIGHT, AS I DID NOT WANT TO GET IN A POS WHERE WE COULDN'T SEE THE MU2. ON BASE, I SAW THE MU2 AT THE SAME ALT, APPROX 250 FT N OF US, JUST STARTING HIS R TURN. THE TWR THEN CALLED 'DO YOU SEE THE CESSNA ON R BASE?' THE MU2 REPLIED IN A SURPRISED VOICE 'I DO NOW!' THE TWR REPLIED 'I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO TURN THERE.' THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS THE FIRST TIME I'VE FOUND THE PATTERN AT DPA TO BE DISORGANIZED AND DANGEROUS. THE CTLR IN CHARGE AT THE TIME OF THIS INCIDENT IN PARTICULAR HAS REGULARLY BEEN LAX IN GIVING ACFT INFO ON LOCATIONS OF OTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN, AND CLARIFYING AIRPLANE'S POS IN THE LNDG SEQUENCE. HE ALSO TIES UP THE TWR FREQ WHEN THINGS ARE BUSY SCOLDING PLTS FOR XPONDER MALFUNCTIONS AND NOT GIVING ENTIRE XMISSIONS ON INITIAL CALL-UP, ITEMS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ON GND AFTER THE PLANE HAS LANDED. HE SOMETIMES DOES NOT GIVE FULL INSTRUCTIONS, EG, THE OTHER EVENING AFTER LNDG ON RWY 10, I WAS TOLD, WHILE ROLLING OUT, 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 33.' THE FULL XMISSION SHOULD HAVE BEEN, 'TURN L ON TXWY C, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 33.' THIS ARPT SEES A HVY TFC LOAD WITH A LOT OF TRAINING FLTS. THE TWR NEEDS TO DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING AND ACT IN A MORE PROFESSIONAL AND RESPONSIBLE MANNER OR THERE WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE A MIDAIR COLLISION. I CAME VERY CLOSE ON AUG/XA/99. I HAVE OVER 10 YRS OF FLYING EXPERIENCE, MOSTLY AT TWR CTLED ARPTS, AND I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED SUCH A POORLY CTLED AIRSPACE. TWR OPS AT DPA NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED AND IMPROVEMENTS MADE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.