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Attributes | |
ACN | 447106 |
Time | |
Date | 199908 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 2v2.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5052 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : 105 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time total : 4600 |
ASRS Report | 447106 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : skydivers non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : 1 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : d01.tracon |
Airport | procedure or policy : 2v2.airport |
Airspace Structure | class e : den.e |
Narrative:
Parachute jumping is done at 2v2. It is near V85 and in mode C area (30 NM den tac). Twin otters and king airs are used to transport jumpers to approximately 17000 ft. After passenger leave the aircraft, the planes execute a high rate of descent into the traffic pattern. The 45 degree entry to downwind is normally from overhead instead of from level to terrain. I have had at least one descend over me on downwind coming within about 150 ft. They are also observed to cut people out on base leg and final. Many times they ignore existing traffic and take off and land against the flow. (All to save time.) the jumpers descend over the field through the traffic pattern and land near and on both sides of the runway. I have heard that some airliners on approach to den have had to maneuver around jumpers. Many people are concerned that a student or transient pilot will tangle with a parachutist. I have heard that complaints have been filed with FAA auths in denver but no corrective action has been noted. I believe that the mix of jumpers and air traffic at this field falls in the category of an accident waiting to happen. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he has been flying since 1943 and has never observed such dangerous activity as occurs at 2v2. The reporter has been flying out of this airport for several yrs and describes the intensity of activity as very heavy, particularly on saturdays. Since he has been there, the reporter has not noticed an increase or decrease in the activity at this field, but noted that the airport has operated at this same high intensity for yrs. He observed that there are more hangars being built and that all of the front range airports are extremely busy. He alleges that the owner of the parachute jumping activity 'is a very controversial person' and has had public altercations with, and has sued, 'almost everyone on the field.' currently, the parachute operator is the plaintiff in a 'very public lawsuit' in which he has sued another FBO operator. The reporter complained that, when the owner flies the jump aircraft, 'it is impossible to know what will happen next. He is very rude. He's sued everyone. He enters the pattern and lands in the opposite direction to the traffic in order to save money. However, he has a king air pilot who is very courteous.' the reporter stated that he flew last saturday and personally observed jumpers landing 'within a dozen ft of the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR HAS OBSERVED PARACHUTE JUMPING ACFT OPERATING NEAR V85 AND WITHIN THE DEN MODE C VEIL AND ALLEGES THAT THEY ARE IGNORING SOP'S IN AND AROUND THIS UNCTLED FIELD. FURTHER, THEIR JUMPERS LAND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RWY OFTEN IN CLOSE PROX TO THE RWY ITSELF.
Narrative: PARACHUTE JUMPING IS DONE AT 2V2. IT IS NEAR V85 AND IN MODE C AREA (30 NM DEN TAC). TWIN OTTERS AND KING AIRS ARE USED TO TRANSPORT JUMPERS TO APPROX 17000 FT. AFTER PAX LEAVE THE ACFT, THE PLANES EXECUTE A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT INTO THE TFC PATTERN. THE 45 DEG ENTRY TO DOWNWIND IS NORMALLY FROM OVERHEAD INSTEAD OF FROM LEVEL TO TERRAIN. I HAVE HAD AT LEAST ONE DSND OVER ME ON DOWNWIND COMING WITHIN ABOUT 150 FT. THEY ARE ALSO OBSERVED TO CUT PEOPLE OUT ON BASE LEG AND FINAL. MANY TIMES THEY IGNORE EXISTING TFC AND TAKE OFF AND LAND AGAINST THE FLOW. (ALL TO SAVE TIME.) THE JUMPERS DSND OVER THE FIELD THROUGH THE TFC PATTERN AND LAND NEAR AND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RWY. I HAVE HEARD THAT SOME AIRLINERS ON APCH TO DEN HAVE HAD TO MANEUVER AROUND JUMPERS. MANY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT A STUDENT OR TRANSIENT PLT WILL TANGLE WITH A PARACHUTIST. I HAVE HEARD THAT COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN FILED WITH FAA AUTHS IN DENVER BUT NO CORRECTIVE ACTION HAS BEEN NOTED. I BELIEVE THAT THE MIX OF JUMPERS AND AIR TFC AT THIS FIELD FALLS IN THE CATEGORY OF AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE HAS BEEN FLYING SINCE 1943 AND HAS NEVER OBSERVED SUCH DANGEROUS ACTIVITY AS OCCURS AT 2V2. THE RPTR HAS BEEN FLYING OUT OF THIS ARPT FOR SEVERAL YRS AND DESCRIBES THE INTENSITY OF ACTIVITY AS VERY HVY, PARTICULARLY ON SATURDAYS. SINCE HE HAS BEEN THERE, THE RPTR HAS NOT NOTICED AN INCREASE OR DECREASE IN THE ACTIVITY AT THIS FIELD, BUT NOTED THAT THE ARPT HAS OPERATED AT THIS SAME HIGH INTENSITY FOR YRS. HE OBSERVED THAT THERE ARE MORE HANGARS BEING BUILT AND THAT ALL OF THE FRONT RANGE ARPTS ARE EXTREMELY BUSY. HE ALLEGES THAT THE OWNER OF THE PARACHUTE JUMPING ACTIVITY 'IS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL PERSON' AND HAS HAD PUBLIC ALTERCATIONS WITH, AND HAS SUED, 'ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE FIELD.' CURRENTLY, THE PARACHUTE OPERATOR IS THE PLAINTIFF IN A 'VERY PUBLIC LAWSUIT' IN WHICH HE HAS SUED ANOTHER FBO OPERATOR. THE RPTR COMPLAINED THAT, WHEN THE OWNER FLIES THE JUMP ACFT, 'IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT. HE IS VERY RUDE. HE'S SUED EVERYONE. HE ENTERS THE PATTERN AND LANDS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO THE TFC IN ORDER TO SAVE MONEY. HOWEVER, HE HAS A KING AIR PLT WHO IS VERY COURTEOUS.' THE RPTR STATED THAT HE FLEW LAST SATURDAY AND PERSONALLY OBSERVED JUMPERS LNDG 'WITHIN A DOZEN FT OF THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.