Aircraft on a SID from mkc are given a heading by the center, per their SOP, which confuses flcs because the heading crosses SID radial and question whether they should rejoin the SID or continue on the heading. Reporter states their local SOP is illegal.

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Attributes
ACN	449164
Time
Date	199909
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : zkc.artcc
State Reference	KS
Altitude	agl single value : 18000
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar pilot : instrument
Experience	controller time certified in position1 : 15 flight time total : 5000
ASRS Report	449164
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Facility ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Facility
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : zkc.artcc

Narrative:

According to mandatory SOP, aircraft was taken off of a SID by being given the heading in the SOP. The heading issued would eventually cross a radial of the SID again. Aircraft didn't know whether to rejoin the SID or fly the heading and questioned the instructions. SOP is illegal and management refuses to change it. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter claims that in the past yrs, 10 ucr's have been filed reference the local SOP. The response from management has been that they are looking into it. Nothing has changed according to the reporter. The intent of the facility SOP is to keep the departures using the jthro transition, clear of the arrs on the braymer one. The departures are usually assigned a heading of 040 degrees by the center. According to the reporter, the SOP does not spell out what phraseology to use or what the flcs are to expect. Reporter believes this is contrary to the 7110.65. Asked why controllers are not using the proper phraseology, as per the handbook, informing the flight crew what to expect. Reporter's answer was that it was not covered in the SOP.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT ON A SID FROM MKC ARE GIVEN A HDG BY THE CTR, PER THEIR SOP, WHICH CONFUSES FLCS BECAUSE THE HDG CROSSES SID RADIAL AND QUESTION WHETHER THEY SHOULD REJOIN THE SID OR CONTINUE ON THE HDG. RPTR STATES THEIR LCL SOP IS ILLEGAL.

Narrative: ACCORDING TO MANDATORY SOP, ACFT WAS TAKEN OFF OF A SID BY BEING GIVEN THE HDG IN THE SOP. THE HDG ISSUED WOULD EVENTUALLY CROSS A RADIAL OF THE SID AGAIN. ACFT DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER TO REJOIN THE SID OR FLY THE HDG AND QUESTIONED THE INSTRUCTIONS. SOP IS ILLEGAL AND MGMNT REFUSES TO CHANGE IT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR CLAIMS THAT IN THE PAST YRS, 10 UCR'S HAVE BEEN FILED REF THE LCL SOP. THE RESPONSE FROM MGMNT HAS BEEN THAT THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT. NOTHING HAS CHANGED ACCORDING TO THE RPTR. THE INTENT OF THE FACILITY SOP IS TO KEEP THE DEPS USING THE JTHRO TRANSITION, CLR OF THE ARRS ON THE BRAYMER ONE. THE DEPS ARE USUALLY ASSIGNED A HDG OF 040 DEGS BY THE CTR. ACCORDING TO THE RPTR, THE SOP DOES NOT SPELL OUT WHAT PHRASEOLOGY TO USE OR WHAT THE FLCS ARE TO EXPECT. RPTR BELIEVES THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE 7110.65. ASKED WHY CTLRS ARE NOT USING THE PROPER PHRASEOLOGY, AS PER THE HANDBOOK, INFORMING THE FLC WHAT TO EXPECT. RPTR'S ANSWER WAS THAT IT WAS NOT COVERED IN THE SOP.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.