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Attributes | |
ACN | 449173 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pdk.vor |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 125 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 449173 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
PF was leveling at 3000 ft heading 090 degrees. Upon check-in with departure, atl directed a climb to 4000 ft, same heading. PNF set altitude alerter to 4000 ft and read back clearance. Then the controller directed a climb to 14000 ft and frequency change to ZTL on 134.5. PNF read back the clearance to climb to 14000 ft and change to 134.5 followed by call sign company X. Then the PNF changed the altitude alerter to 14000 ft. No further instructions were received from departure control. Upon monitoring center frequency, we heard a company aircraft, company 2, checking in on center frequency. They, too, were climbing to 14000 ft. It was unusual to hear one of our other company aircraft since our fleet only has 8 aircraft. After company Z checked in, PNF company 1 checked in with center, advising that we were heading 090 degrees, climbing to 14000 ft. Center said we were not to be on this frequency, return to previous controller. PNF immediately went back to departure on 119.3. Controller said to level at 10000 ft, which PF did. Aircraft continued to be vectored at 10000 ft with this controller. Handoff was made to a subsequent approach controller for further vectors. Once south of the atlanta complex, approach climbed us to 14000 ft and handed us off to center on 134.5. Checking in with ZTL, we were greeted with welcome back. Wondering where things went wrong on the clearance, I contacted company 2 on our company frequency. They informed me they had just departed falcon airport in atlanta and had been talking to atl approach on 119.8, different from our 119.3. They received their clearance to 14000 ft and handoff to center on 134.5 on that frequency. I am still confused as to what really all happened behind the scenes of ATC. Fortunately, it was VMC and we were TCASII equipped. Volume also seemed to be very low. I can only speculate, the departure controller was working 2 frequencys simultaneously. I never heard any directions to company 2 until initially monitoring 134.5 (ZTL). My initial readback to departure, acknowledging a climb to 14000 ft and frequency change to 134.5, was not challenged. There was ample time between acknowledgement and actual frequency change. If the controller had been working 2 frequencys simultaneously, there could have been confusion caused if both company 1 and 2 answered simultaneously. Maybe my acknowledgement was never heard. I was never warned that another aircraft with similar call sign was being worked by the same controller. This entire event could probably not even happen this way again. The odds are too great. It only points out that true diligence on behalf of both pilots and controllers is required to avoid problems on conflicts. We need to recognize when potential problems can occur and take necessary steps before problems can materialize. The person with the most information has the advantage in this situation. This whole event serves to point out that we should never let our guards down. We have the best system in the world. We need to work even harder to keep it this way. Volume can only get greater and experience will get even lower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL60 FLC EVIDENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED AN ATL CLB CLRNC FOR A COMPANY ACFT WHICH IS RECOGNIZED ONLY AFTER FREQ CHANGE TO ZTL.
Narrative: PF WAS LEVELING AT 3000 FT HDG 090 DEGS. UPON CHK-IN WITH DEP, ATL DIRECTED A CLB TO 4000 FT, SAME HDG. PNF SET ALT ALERTER TO 4000 FT AND READ BACK CLRNC. THEN THE CTLR DIRECTED A CLB TO 14000 FT AND FREQ CHANGE TO ZTL ON 134.5. PNF READ BACK THE CLRNC TO CLB TO 14000 FT AND CHANGE TO 134.5 FOLLOWED BY CALL SIGN COMPANY X. THEN THE PNF CHANGED THE ALT ALERTER TO 14000 FT. NO FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM DEP CTL. UPON MONITORING CTR FREQ, WE HEARD A COMPANY ACFT, COMPANY 2, CHKING IN ON CTR FREQ. THEY, TOO, WERE CLBING TO 14000 FT. IT WAS UNUSUAL TO HEAR ONE OF OUR OTHER COMPANY ACFT SINCE OUR FLEET ONLY HAS 8 ACFT. AFTER COMPANY Z CHKED IN, PNF COMPANY 1 CHKED IN WITH CTR, ADVISING THAT WE WERE HDG 090 DEGS, CLBING TO 14000 FT. CTR SAID WE WERE NOT TO BE ON THIS FREQ, RETURN TO PREVIOUS CTLR. PNF IMMEDIATELY WENT BACK TO DEP ON 119.3. CTLR SAID TO LEVEL AT 10000 FT, WHICH PF DID. ACFT CONTINUED TO BE VECTORED AT 10000 FT WITH THIS CTLR. HDOF WAS MADE TO A SUBSEQUENT APCH CTLR FOR FURTHER VECTORS. ONCE S OF THE ATLANTA COMPLEX, APCH CLBED US TO 14000 FT AND HANDED US OFF TO CTR ON 134.5. CHKING IN WITH ZTL, WE WERE GREETED WITH WELCOME BACK. WONDERING WHERE THINGS WENT WRONG ON THE CLRNC, I CONTACTED COMPANY 2 ON OUR COMPANY FREQ. THEY INFORMED ME THEY HAD JUST DEPARTED FALCON ARPT IN ATLANTA AND HAD BEEN TALKING TO ATL APCH ON 119.8, DIFFERENT FROM OUR 119.3. THEY RECEIVED THEIR CLRNC TO 14000 FT AND HDOF TO CTR ON 134.5 ON THAT FREQ. I AM STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHAT REALLY ALL HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES OF ATC. FORTUNATELY, IT WAS VMC AND WE WERE TCASII EQUIPPED. VOLUME ALSO SEEMED TO BE VERY LOW. I CAN ONLY SPECULATE, THE DEP CTLR WAS WORKING 2 FREQS SIMULTANEOUSLY. I NEVER HEARD ANY DIRECTIONS TO COMPANY 2 UNTIL INITIALLY MONITORING 134.5 (ZTL). MY INITIAL READBACK TO DEP, ACKNOWLEDGING A CLB TO 14000 FT AND FREQ CHANGE TO 134.5, WAS NOT CHALLENGED. THERE WAS AMPLE TIME BTWN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACTUAL FREQ CHANGE. IF THE CTLR HAD BEEN WORKING 2 FREQS SIMULTANEOUSLY, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN CONFUSION CAUSED IF BOTH COMPANY 1 AND 2 ANSWERED SIMULTANEOUSLY. MAYBE MY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS NEVER HEARD. I WAS NEVER WARNED THAT ANOTHER ACFT WITH SIMILAR CALL SIGN WAS BEING WORKED BY THE SAME CTLR. THIS ENTIRE EVENT COULD PROBABLY NOT EVEN HAPPEN THIS WAY AGAIN. THE ODDS ARE TOO GREAT. IT ONLY POINTS OUT THAT TRUE DILIGENCE ON BEHALF OF BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS IS REQUIRED TO AVOID PROBS ON CONFLICTS. WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE WHEN POTENTIAL PROBS CAN OCCUR AND TAKE NECESSARY STEPS BEFORE PROBS CAN MATERIALIZE. THE PERSON WITH THE MOST INFO HAS THE ADVANTAGE IN THIS SIT. THIS WHOLE EVENT SERVES TO POINT OUT THAT WE SHOULD NEVER LET OUR GUARDS DOWN. WE HAVE THE BEST SYS IN THE WORLD. WE NEED TO WORK EVEN HARDER TO KEEP IT THIS WAY. VOLUME CAN ONLY GET GREATER AND EXPERIENCE WILL GET EVEN LOWER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.