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Attributes | |
ACN | 449951 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sn.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain Turbulence |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8307 flight time type : 3411 |
ASRS Report | 449951 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 449347 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical excursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Normal approach to flare with high but relatively steady xwinds. Flare affected by gust. Added power to arrest airspeed loss and descent. Bounced on touchdown. Applied maximum thrust reversers and maximum manual braking. Deceleration less than normal. Aircraft departed end of runway at estimated 20 KTS. Runway surface very slippery with standing water and rubber deposits. Uneven brake performance and possible spoiler malfunction/failure to deploy may have contributed as the rollout deceleration was definitely not normal, even for these conditions. Data shows landing distance of about '6000 ft.' that gave us a 3000+ ft margin. Flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder being analyzed by NTSB. Accident investigation unit is conducting incident investigation. Next time I will reiterate standard procedures concerning spoiler deployment in my briefing. In addition, I will be less eager to believe tower calls on current conditions which specifically excluded gusts. Supplemental information from acn 449347: from about 30-40 mi out I brief captain that I felt he make approach and landing because of my proficiency from right seat. If seated from left seat probably yes, but from right seat not comfortable with stronger xwinds. Went through approach brief then vectors to final. Over landing threshold experienced some gusts/turbulence. Wind check from tower 150 degrees 25 KTS. No gusts reported from tower on our final through touchdown. Landing at about 3000 ft and remember aircraft slight ballooning in flare. Thoughts: decision to go around and land at alternate airport (dublin) and wait out strong xwinds. Seems that rubber build-up at end of runway 24 excessive and little stopping ability available.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD11 RWY EXCURSION SHANNON, IRELAND.
Narrative: NORMAL APCH TO FLARE WITH HIGH BUT RELATIVELY STEADY XWINDS. FLARE AFFECTED BY GUST. ADDED PWR TO ARREST AIRSPD LOSS AND DSCNT. BOUNCED ON TOUCHDOWN. APPLIED MAX THRUST REVERSERS AND MAX MANUAL BRAKING. DECELERATION LESS THAN NORMAL. ACFT DEPARTED END OF RWY AT ESTIMATED 20 KTS. RWY SURFACE VERY SLIPPERY WITH STANDING WATER AND RUBBER DEPOSITS. UNEVEN BRAKE PERFORMANCE AND POSSIBLE SPOILER MALFUNCTION/FAILURE TO DEPLOY MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED AS THE ROLLOUT DECELERATION WAS DEFINITELY NOT NORMAL, EVEN FOR THESE CONDITIONS. DATA SHOWS LNDG DISTANCE OF ABOUT '6000 FT.' THAT GAVE US A 3000+ FT MARGIN. FLT DATA RECORDER AND COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER BEING ANALYZED BY NTSB. ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION UNIT IS CONDUCTING INCIDENT INVESTIGATION. NEXT TIME I WILL REITERATE STANDARD PROCS CONCERNING SPOILER DEPLOYMENT IN MY BRIEFING. IN ADDITION, I WILL BE LESS EAGER TO BELIEVE TWR CALLS ON CURRENT CONDITIONS WHICH SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED GUSTS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 449347: FROM ABOUT 30-40 MI OUT I BRIEF CAPT THAT I FELT HE MAKE APCH AND LNDG BECAUSE OF MY PROFICIENCY FROM R SEAT. IF SEATED FROM L SEAT PROBABLY YES, BUT FROM R SEAT NOT COMFORTABLE WITH STRONGER XWINDS. WENT THROUGH APCH BRIEF THEN VECTORS TO FINAL. OVER LNDG THRESHOLD EXPERIENCED SOME GUSTS/TURB. WIND CHK FROM TWR 150 DEGS 25 KTS. NO GUSTS RPTED FROM TWR ON OUR FINAL THROUGH TOUCHDOWN. LNDG AT ABOUT 3000 FT AND REMEMBER ACFT SLIGHT BALLOONING IN FLARE. THOUGHTS: DECISION TO GO AROUND AND LAND AT ALTERNATE ARPT (DUBLIN) AND WAIT OUT STRONG XWINDS. SEEMS THAT RUBBER BUILD-UP AT END OF RWY 24 EXCESSIVE AND LITTLE STOPPING ABILITY AVAILABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.