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A boeing 737-400 flight crew questions the safety of a runway reassignment which required use of vny airspace on approach to bur to accommodate a missed approach aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 450620 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199909 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bur.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 08 other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bur.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 450620 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 23400 flight time type : 5500 |
| ASRS Report | 450416 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
As we approached the FAF to runway 8 we were handed off to bur tower. Tower advised us to slow to our final approach speed since aircraft Y was going around and we would be following them. As we got closer tower asked if we had aircraft X in sight at our 1 O'clock position on a right base. Since both of us did not have the traffic, I replied that we did not have the traffic in sight. We were now cleared for a visual approach to runway 15. The captain turned to a heading of 030 degrees, leveled off around 2700 ft MSL and set up a right base for runway 15. Tower then rescinded the runway 15 clearance and issued a clearance approach back to runway 8 and asked for 2 left turns and to reenter final approach, which we did. No TA, RA's or conflicts were encountered but we did a 360 degree turn over van nuys airport traffic pattern which seemed somewhat hazardous. I question the safety in the priority of the 'missed approach' aircraft Y being cleared in front of us and requiring the subsequent changes in runway approach and landing clrncs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BOEING 737-400 FLC QUESTIONS THE SAFETY OF A RWY REASSIGNMENT WHICH REQUIRED USE OF VNY AIRSPACE ON APCH TO BUR TO ACCOMMODATE A MISSED APCH ACFT.
Narrative: AS WE APCHED THE FAF TO RWY 8 WE WERE HANDED OFF TO BUR TWR. TWR ADVISED US TO SLOW TO OUR FINAL APCH SPD SINCE ACFT Y WAS GOING AROUND AND WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING THEM. AS WE GOT CLOSER TWR ASKED IF WE HAD ACFT X IN SIGHT AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS ON A R BASE. SINCE BOTH OF US DID NOT HAVE THE TFC, I REPLIED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE TFC IN SIGHT. WE WERE NOW CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 15. THE CAPT TURNED TO A HEADING OF 030 DEGS, LEVELED OFF AROUND 2700 FT MSL AND SET UP A R BASE FOR RWY 15. TWR THEN RESCINDED THE RWY 15 CLRNC AND ISSUED A CLRNC APCH BACK TO RWY 8 AND ASKED FOR 2 L TURNS AND TO REENTER FINAL APCH, WHICH WE DID. NO TA, RA'S OR CONFLICTS WERE ENCOUNTERED BUT WE DID A 360 DEG TURN OVER VAN NUYS ARPT TFC PATTERN WHICH SEEMED SOMEWHAT HAZARDOUS. I QUESTION THE SAFETY IN THE PRIORITY OF THE 'MISSED APCH' ACFT Y BEING CLRED IN FRONT OF US AND REQUIRING THE SUBSEQUENT CHANGES IN RWY APCH AND LNDG CLRNCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.