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Attributes | |
ACN | 450960 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rfd.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rfd.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 310/T310C |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rfd.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | M-20 Scotsman |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Experience | controller radar : 16 controller time certified in position1 : 1.5 |
ASRS Report | 450960 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Facility Navigational Facility Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | radar equipment : rfd.tracon |
Narrative:
I was working aircraft #1 through my sector. I observed a 'V' (aircraft #2) which indicated a VFR act within 1 mi of aircraft #1, but saw no primary or secondary return associated with the target. Targets often appear and disappear at my facility. On the second sweep after first noticing the possibility of aircraft #2's existence, aircraft #1 asked if I was talking to the mooney at his altitude that 'got kind of close.' as he was speaking, the 'V' showed an indicated altitude of 8000 ft. The mooney came out of nowhere. I had my upper radar altitude filter limit set at 11500 ft. I tracked the mooney's (aircraft #2's) course for 20 mi and he stayed level at 8000 ft. I suppose the mooney could have been on my scope all along and I just didn't notice him. His course might have gone over the radar cone of silence, but he didn't materialize until 10 mi from the radar, which is pretty far from the main bang not to be seen at 8000 ft. We have a history of lousy radar (primary, secondary and ARTS) at rockford. Airways facilities was working on a bad beacon channel today. We've discontinued surveillance approachs to 2 runways here because of inadequate primary. Our radar was under article 65 for almost a yr. We have a book to track radar problems which we controllers fill out daily. I'm used to waiting for a few sweeps to confirm a target's existence before issuing traffic, due to the unreliability of the radar. If we had better radar the pilot could be looking for traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RFD CTLR CONCERNED WITH POOR RADAR RETURNS WHEN C310 COMPLAINS ABOUT AN MO20 PASSING WITHIN CLOSE PROX WITHOUT A TA.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING ACFT #1 THROUGH MY SECTOR. I OBSERVED A 'V' (ACFT #2) WHICH INDICATED A VFR ACT WITHIN 1 MI OF ACFT #1, BUT SAW NO PRIMARY OR SECONDARY RETURN ASSOCIATED WITH THE TARGET. TARGETS OFTEN APPEAR AND DISAPPEAR AT MY FACILITY. ON THE SECOND SWEEP AFTER FIRST NOTICING THE POSSIBILITY OF ACFT #2'S EXISTENCE, ACFT #1 ASKED IF I WAS TALKING TO THE MOONEY AT HIS ALT THAT 'GOT KIND OF CLOSE.' AS HE WAS SPEAKING, THE 'V' SHOWED AN INDICATED ALT OF 8000 FT. THE MOONEY CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. I HAD MY UPPER RADAR ALT FILTER LIMIT SET AT 11500 FT. I TRACKED THE MOONEY'S (ACFT #2'S) COURSE FOR 20 MI AND HE STAYED LEVEL AT 8000 FT. I SUPPOSE THE MOONEY COULD HAVE BEEN ON MY SCOPE ALL ALONG AND I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE HIM. HIS COURSE MIGHT HAVE GONE OVER THE RADAR CONE OF SILENCE, BUT HE DIDN'T MATERIALIZE UNTIL 10 MI FROM THE RADAR, WHICH IS PRETTY FAR FROM THE MAIN BANG NOT TO BE SEEN AT 8000 FT. WE HAVE A HISTORY OF LOUSY RADAR (PRIMARY, SECONDARY AND ARTS) AT ROCKFORD. AIRWAYS FACILITIES WAS WORKING ON A BAD BEACON CHANNEL TODAY. WE'VE DISCONTINUED SURVEILLANCE APCHS TO 2 RWYS HERE BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE PRIMARY. OUR RADAR WAS UNDER ARTICLE 65 FOR ALMOST A YR. WE HAVE A BOOK TO TRACK RADAR PROBS WHICH WE CTLRS FILL OUT DAILY. I'M USED TO WAITING FOR A FEW SWEEPS TO CONFIRM A TARGET'S EXISTENCE BEFORE ISSUING TFC, DUE TO THE UNRELIABILITY OF THE RADAR. IF WE HAD BETTER RADAR THE PLT COULD BE LOOKING FOR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.