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An air carrier flight crew flying B767 over france reports confusion and possible airspace violation concerning their company generated flight plan and that cleared by ATC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 451140 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199910 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : egtt.artcc |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : egtt.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 451140 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 7500 |
| ASRS Report | 451423 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight plan routing lizad direct shannon. Controller stated this was illegal and should never have been approved. When queried via ACARS, dispatcher agreed, saying routing should have been lizad UG4 shannon. Controller very upset. Got a 30 degree left vector, then cleared direct crk. Controller stated he had cleared us to lnd (lands end) but we neither received nor acknowledged this clearance. To my knowledge, no traffic conflict occurred. Controller stated we were going to enter a danger area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING B767 OVER FRANCE RPTS CONFUSION AND POSSIBLE AIRSPACE VIOLATION CONCERNING THEIR COMPANY GENERATED FLT PLAN AND THAT CLRED BY ATC.
Narrative: FLT PLAN ROUTING LIZAD DIRECT SHANNON. CTLR STATED THIS WAS ILLEGAL AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WHEN QUERIED VIA ACARS, DISPATCHER AGREED, SAYING ROUTING SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIZAD UG4 SHANNON. CTLR VERY UPSET. GOT A 30 DEG L VECTOR, THEN CLRED DIRECT CRK. CTLR STATED HE HAD CLRED US TO LND (LANDS END) BUT WE NEITHER RECEIVED NOR ACKNOWLEDGED THIS CLRNC. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO TFC CONFLICT OCCURRED. CTLR STATED WE WERE GOING TO ENTER A DANGER AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.