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Crossing restr difficult to meet for air carrier crew, flight crew was distracted. Late reminder by ATC was an assist.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 451830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199910 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : cvg.vortac |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : cince |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 9970 flight time type : 1700 |
| ASRS Report | 451830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At 14000 ft on the cince 3 arrival to cvg, ZID issued a clearance to cross the tigrr intersection at 11000 ft. Later, roughly 5 mi northeast of tigrr, ATC queried us whether or not we'd make the crossing restr. We answered in the negative. However, once the question was answered we increased the rate of descent and crossed approximately 1 NM from tigrr at 11000 ft. ATC turned us off of the arrival for a brief period, once at 11000 ft -- we were reclred to join the arrival, without further incident. Factors involved, include preoccupation with the descent checklist, initially, the clearance to cross tigrr was issued approximately 70 NM from tigrr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: XING RESTR DIFFICULT TO MEET FOR ACR CREW, FLC WAS DISTRACTED. LATE REMINDER BY ATC WAS AN ASSIST.
Narrative: AT 14000 FT ON THE CINCE 3 ARR TO CVG, ZID ISSUED A CLRNC TO CROSS THE TIGRR INTXN AT 11000 FT. LATER, ROUGHLY 5 MI NE OF TIGRR, ATC QUERIED US WHETHER OR NOT WE'D MAKE THE XING RESTR. WE ANSWERED IN THE NEGATIVE. HOWEVER, ONCE THE QUESTION WAS ANSWERED WE INCREASED THE RATE OF DSCNT AND CROSSED APPROX 1 NM FROM TIGRR AT 11000 FT. ATC TURNED US OFF OF THE ARR FOR A BRIEF PERIOD, ONCE AT 11000 FT -- WE WERE RECLRED TO JOIN THE ARR, WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. FACTORS INVOLVED, INCLUDE PREOCCUPATION WITH THE DSCNT CHKLIST, INITIALLY, THE CLRNC TO CROSS TIGRR WAS ISSUED APPROX 70 NM FROM TIGRR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.