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Attributes | |
ACN | 452620 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : l18.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v23.airway |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 452620 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : vor other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While navigating between 2 vors (on a victor airway) with LORAN as a backup, my attention was diverted explaining a related subject. I soon realized we had diverted slightly west of course with R2503 nearby. Although ATC didn't mention anything, I'm not sure how close we flew to it, not knowing the exact accuracy of the vors. I thought it was best I file this just in case we accidentally penetrated the restr area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIPER PA28 ENTERS RESTR AIRSPACE UNINTENTIONALLY DUE TO THE INSTRUCTOR'S ATTN BECOMING DISTR WHILE GIVING INSTRUCTION TO HIS STUDENT.
Narrative: WHILE NAVING BTWN 2 VORS (ON A VICTOR AIRWAY) WITH LORAN AS A BACKUP, MY ATTN WAS DIVERTED EXPLAINING A RELATED SUBJECT. I SOON REALIZED WE HAD DIVERTED SLIGHTLY W OF COURSE WITH R2503 NEARBY. ALTHOUGH ATC DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING, I'M NOT SURE HOW CLOSE WE FLEW TO IT, NOT KNOWING THE EXACT ACCURACY OF THE VORS. I THOUGHT IT WAS BEST I FILE THIS JUST IN CASE WE ACCIDENTALLY PENETRATED THE RESTR AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.