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Attributes | |
ACN | 453252 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ues.airport |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 3 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ues.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Champion Citabria 7ECA |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ues.tower |
Make Model Name | Citation I |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 453252 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time total : 4000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | excursion : runway inflight encounter : wake turbulence other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Narrative:
I was training a pilot in a 7ECA citabria for a tailwheel chkout. He was a 4000 hour CFI with 25 yrs fling experience. This was his second lesson in a tailwheel. Our second landing was a full stall landing, followed by a go around. Power came in, tail up, and just after liftoff aircraft began to bank right. I came on the controls, but the airplane did not respond and banked violently to the right, resulting in a crash 50 ft to the right of the runway. Possible cause; 1) student pushed full right rudder, and I was unable to overpower him. However, student was a CFI with 4000 hours and 25 yrs experience. I would not expect him to do something like that. It was also not a gndloop -- airplane was airborne before any problems arose. 2) windshear, but winds were steady and light 270 degrees at 7 KTS. 3) wake turbulence from jet that had landed 4 mins prior. This scenario would work with the left crosswind and the light winds, but not the headwind component, nor the fact that it was a 500 series citation, which doesn't seem to generate much wake. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter indicates that he has had long discussions with the FAA and they have come to no definitive conclusion about the actual cause. The aircraft was damaged including the gear and propeller and some belly damage. Not considered substantial unless you are writing the checks for repairs. The aircraft came to rest 90 degrees to the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CITABRIA ATTAINS 3 FT OF ALT ON TKOF, TURNS 90 DEGS AND LANDS NEXT TO THE RWY IN SPITE OF INSTRUCTOR'S BEST EFFORTS.
Narrative: I WAS TRAINING A PLT IN A 7ECA CITABRIA FOR A TAILWHEEL CHKOUT. HE WAS A 4000 HR CFI WITH 25 YRS FLING EXPERIENCE. THIS WAS HIS SECOND LESSON IN A TAILWHEEL. OUR SECOND LNDG WAS A FULL STALL LNDG, FOLLOWED BY A GAR. PWR CAME IN, TAIL UP, AND JUST AFTER LIFTOFF ACFT BEGAN TO BANK R. I CAME ON THE CTLS, BUT THE AIRPLANE DID NOT RESPOND AND BANKED VIOLENTLY TO THE R, RESULTING IN A CRASH 50 FT TO THE R OF THE RWY. POSSIBLE CAUSE; 1) STUDENT PUSHED FULL R RUDDER, AND I WAS UNABLE TO OVERPOWER HIM. HOWEVER, STUDENT WAS A CFI WITH 4000 HRS AND 25 YRS EXPERIENCE. I WOULD NOT EXPECT HIM TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS ALSO NOT A GNDLOOP -- AIRPLANE WAS AIRBORNE BEFORE ANY PROBS AROSE. 2) WINDSHEAR, BUT WINDS WERE STEADY AND LIGHT 270 DEGS AT 7 KTS. 3) WAKE TURB FROM JET THAT HAD LANDED 4 MINS PRIOR. THIS SCENARIO WOULD WORK WITH THE L XWIND AND THE LIGHT WINDS, BUT NOT THE HEADWIND COMPONENT, NOR THE FACT THAT IT WAS A 500 SERIES CITATION, WHICH DOESN'T SEEM TO GENERATE MUCH WAKE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR INDICATES THAT HE HAS HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FAA AND THEY HAVE COME TO NO DEFINITIVE CONCLUSION ABOUT THE ACTUAL CAUSE. THE ACFT WAS DAMAGED INCLUDING THE GEAR AND PROP AND SOME BELLY DAMAGE. NOT CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIAL UNLESS YOU ARE WRITING THE CHKS FOR REPAIRS. THE ACFT CAME TO REST 90 DEGS TO THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.