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Attributes | |
ACN | 453455 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 235 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 5400 |
ASRS Report | 453455 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : d10.tracon |
Airspace Structure | class b : dfw.b |
Narrative:
After switching to departure, we were given several vectors in a northerly direction to join the tri-gate SID. Departure kept us at 4000 ft until we were several mi past the boundary of class B airspace. The floor of the class B airspace in our area (within the class B boundaries) had been 4000 ft for about the last 10 NM. We saw several TCASII targets and were able to acquire them all visually. However, this is not always the case. Dfw's departure procedures put my passenger, my crew, and my company's aircraft at risk when we are vectored out the sides of the class B airspace at low altitudes. We do our best to see and avoid, but we can't catch every VFR target transitioning around the class B airspace, not in radio contact with our departure controller. It is only a matter of time before this practice results in an accident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB120 FLC FEELS THAT ALTS BELOW DFW CLASS B AIRSPACE COULD BE POTENTIALLY RISKY.
Narrative: AFTER SWITCHING TO DEP, WE WERE GIVEN SEVERAL VECTORS IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION TO JOIN THE TRI-GATE SID. DEP KEPT US AT 4000 FT UNTIL WE WERE SEVERAL MI PAST THE BOUNDARY OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. THE FLOOR OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE IN OUR AREA (WITHIN THE CLASS B BOUNDARIES) HAD BEEN 4000 FT FOR ABOUT THE LAST 10 NM. WE SAW SEVERAL TCASII TARGETS AND WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THEM ALL VISUALLY. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. DFW'S DEP PROCS PUT MY PAX, MY CREW, AND MY COMPANY'S ACFT AT RISK WHEN WE ARE VECTORED OUT THE SIDES OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE AT LOW ALTS. WE DO OUR BEST TO SEE AND AVOID, BUT WE CAN'T CATCH EVERY VFR TARGET TRANSITIONING AROUND THE CLASS B AIRSPACE, NOT IN RADIO CONTACT WITH OUR DEP CTLR. IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THIS PRACTICE RESULTS IN AN ACCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.