Ground controller at jfk alleges that a JS41 crew taxied onto a runway without authority/authorized.

Attributes
ACN	454590
Time
Date	199911
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Jetstream 41
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : ground
Qualification	controller : radar pilot : instrument pilot : private
Experience	controller limited radar : 16 flight time total : 550
ASRS Report	454590
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 184 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 445
ASRS Report	454589
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated faa : assigned or threatened penalties
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

An JS41 taxied out of taxiway K onto runway 31L, and then turned off of the runway. The pilot said that he was confused. Supplemental information from acn 454589: on nov/mon/99, my captain brought to my attention that jfk tower had called him unofficially regarding a supposed taxi infraction which was to have occurred nov/sun/99 at approximately XA50 hours. The call from the tower was a heads up call in reference to a report being filed by the controller working ground control at the time of accusation. It is alleged that on nov/sun/99, at approximately XA50 hours, my captain and I crossed a hold short line at txwys K, left and runway 31L and continued out onto the runway. This accusation completely surprised me as we were cleared to taxi from the ramp via taxiway K, left taxiway B to hold short of taxiway F from runway 31R. At no time during our taxi did we cross any hold short lines or any runways until we were cleared to position and hold runway 31R via txwys Z, a. I am at a loss to explain how this controller could ever report our position being anywhere near runway 31L.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: GND CTLR AT JFK ALLEGES THAT A JS41 CREW TAXIED ONTO A RWY WITHOUT AUTH.

Narrative: AN JS41 TAXIED OUT OF TXWY K ONTO RWY 31L, AND THEN TURNED OFF OF THE RWY. THE PLT SAID THAT HE WAS CONFUSED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 454589: ON NOV/MON/99, MY CAPT BROUGHT TO MY ATTN THAT JFK TWR HAD CALLED HIM UNOFFICIALLY REGARDING A SUPPOSED TAXI INFRACTION WHICH WAS TO HAVE OCCURRED NOV/SUN/99 AT APPROX XA50 HRS. THE CALL FROM THE TWR WAS A HEADS UP CALL IN REF TO A RPT BEING FILED BY THE CTLR WORKING GND CTL AT THE TIME OF ACCUSATION. IT IS ALLEGED THAT ON NOV/SUN/99, AT APPROX XA50 HRS, MY CAPT AND I CROSSED A HOLD SHORT LINE AT TXWYS K, L AND RWY 31L AND CONTINUED OUT ONTO THE RWY. THIS ACCUSATION COMPLETELY SURPRISED ME AS WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI FROM THE RAMP VIA TXWY K, L TXWY B TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY F FROM RWY 31R. AT NO TIME DURING OUR TAXI DID WE CROSS ANY HOLD SHORT LINES OR ANY RWYS UNTIL WE WERE CLRED TO POS AND HOLD RWY 31R VIA TXWYS Z, A. I AM AT A LOSS TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS CTLR COULD EVER RPT OUR POS BEING ANYWHERE NEAR RWY 31L.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.