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Attributes | |
ACN | 455411 |
Time | |
Date | 199911 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : obk.vor |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 455411 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 70 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 455410 |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Facility Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Training flight along chicago's airspace from ues to gyy. Received WX information for flight but did not receive notice of temporary flight restr. WX briefing should have been obtained by pilots. Also, I feel waukegan and meigs tower should have made the information available to pilots en route. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the instructor said the purpose of the flight was to give student familiarity with the procedures required to avoid the chicago class B airspace along the shore of lake michigan. In the course of preflight and flight plan filing, NOTAMS were checked by computer, but not with direct contact with an FSS briefer. Intrusion into the restr airspace was discovered by ZAU and the crew was notified by milwaukee approach since that was the frequency they were monitoring on their VFR flight. A request for a letter of explanation was made by FSDO. Reporter said they did not contact C90 since they were below C90 airspace and did not wish to interfere with radio traffic which is typically busy because of ord traffic. In hindsight, he suggests that C90 would have been the ones to advise the crew of the existence of the temporary flight restr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO NAV C90 AREA LEADS TO ENTRY INTO TEMPORARY FLT RESTR AIRSPACE NEAR OBK UNKNOWN TO INSTRUCTOR.
Narrative: TRAINING FLT ALONG CHICAGO'S AIRSPACE FROM UES TO GYY. RECEIVED WX INFO FOR FLT BUT DID NOT RECEIVE NOTICE OF TEMPORARY FLT RESTR. WX BRIEFING SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBTAINED BY PLTS. ALSO, I FEEL WAUKEGAN AND MEIGS TWR SHOULD HAVE MADE THE INFO AVAILABLE TO PLTS ENRTE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE INSTRUCTOR SAID THE PURPOSE OF THE FLT WAS TO GIVE STUDENT FAMILIARITY WITH THE PROCS REQUIRED TO AVOID THE CHICAGO CLASS B AIRSPACE ALONG THE SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN. IN THE COURSE OF PREFLT AND FLT PLAN FILING, NOTAMS WERE CHKED BY COMPUTER, BUT NOT WITH DIRECT CONTACT WITH AN FSS BRIEFER. INTRUSION INTO THE RESTR AIRSPACE WAS DISCOVERED BY ZAU AND THE CREW WAS NOTIFIED BY MILWAUKEE APCH SINCE THAT WAS THE FREQ THEY WERE MONITORING ON THEIR VFR FLT. A REQUEST FOR A LETTER OF EXPLANATION WAS MADE BY FSDO. RPTR SAID THEY DID NOT CONTACT C90 SINCE THEY WERE BELOW C90 AIRSPACE AND DID NOT WISH TO INTERFERE WITH RADIO TFC WHICH IS TYPICALLY BUSY BECAUSE OF ORD TFC. IN HINDSIGHT, HE SUGGESTS THAT C90 WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONES TO ADVISE THE CREW OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE TEMPORARY FLT RESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.