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Attributes | |
ACN | 457166 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 457166 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : ord.tower |
Narrative:
Wake turbulence encounter. We were cleared for takeoff with a turn to 140 degree heading while preceding B737 departure was still on runway. The B737 lifted off before we released the brakes. The left turn to 140 degrees at 400 ft took us through the wake turbulence of the B737 resulting in a very rapid roll of 20-25 degrees to the left. This was counteracted with no further problems but it was very disconcerting considering the relatively low altitude of approximately 600 ft AGL. I regret not informing the tower of this encounter. Although I did inform the dfw tower of a wake encounter under almost exactly the same circumstances on a previous occasion. After 2 of these encounters at low altitude, I don't consider it safe to take off immediately after a preceding jet, even one of similar type to cause a large uncommanded roll when in close proximity. I think that this issue should be raised with the controllers as a safety matter. In the future, I will not accept any clearance to take off while the preceding plane is still rolling. It may be a legal clearance but it's not smart.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD ENCOUNTER WITH WAKE TURB DEPARTING RWY 22L AT ORD.
Narrative: WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF WITH A TURN TO 140 DEG HDG WHILE PRECEDING B737 DEP WAS STILL ON RWY. THE B737 LIFTED OFF BEFORE WE RELEASED THE BRAKES. THE L TURN TO 140 DEGS AT 400 FT TOOK US THROUGH THE WAKE TURB OF THE B737 RESULTING IN A VERY RAPID ROLL OF 20-25 DEGS TO THE L. THIS WAS COUNTERACTED WITH NO FURTHER PROBS BUT IT WAS VERY DISCONCERTING CONSIDERING THE RELATIVELY LOW ALT OF APPROX 600 FT AGL. I REGRET NOT INFORMING THE TWR OF THIS ENCOUNTER. ALTHOUGH I DID INFORM THE DFW TWR OF A WAKE ENCOUNTER UNDER ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES ON A PREVIOUS OCCASION. AFTER 2 OF THESE ENCOUNTERS AT LOW ALT, I DON'T CONSIDER IT SAFE TO TAKE OFF IMMEDIATELY AFTER A PRECEDING JET, EVEN ONE OF SIMILAR TYPE TO CAUSE A LARGE UNCOMMANDED ROLL WHEN IN CLOSE PROX. I THINK THAT THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE RAISED WITH THE CTLRS AS A SAFETY MATTER. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY CLRNC TO TAKE OFF WHILE THE PRECEDING PLANE IS STILL ROLLING. IT MAY BE A LEGAL CLRNC BUT IT'S NOT SMART.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.