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Attributes | |
ACN | 457614 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sgj.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation X |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 33 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 457614 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
As we approached st augustine, we called unicom and were advised they were using runway 13. We entered and called left downwind. A bonanza called 5 mi north and was advised also that they were using runway 13. He called entering left downwind for runway 6. We told him we were on downwind for runway 13. Then we saw him just as TCASII told us to climb. He was at 1400 ft. We talked with the FBO person on duty and she stated that the 'locals' never paid attention to their TA's. Using runway 6 and runway 13 at the same time is a dangerous practice. When we were ready for takeoff at runway 13, we could not see the takeoff area of runway 6. Buildings block the view. This is a training base which creates a lot of traffic. Runway 6 is too short for jets. There used to be a control tower there and it needs to be re-manned before there is a collision. There is serious danger when both runways are being used and unicom does not have any authority/authorized, nor should it have.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CITATION 750 CAPT RPTED THAT ACFT AT SGJ DO NOT HEED THE INFO GIVEN THEM BY UNICOM. IN THIS CASE, HE WAS ON APCH FOR RWY 13 AND EXPERIENCED AN NMAC WITH AN ACFT PURPOSELY FLYING AN APCH TO RWY 6.
Narrative: AS WE APCHED ST AUGUSTINE, WE CALLED UNICOM AND WERE ADVISED THEY WERE USING RWY 13. WE ENTERED AND CALLED L DOWNWIND. A BONANZA CALLED 5 MI N AND WAS ADVISED ALSO THAT THEY WERE USING RWY 13. HE CALLED ENTERING L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 6. WE TOLD HIM WE WERE ON DOWNWIND FOR RWY 13. THEN WE SAW HIM JUST AS TCASII TOLD US TO CLB. HE WAS AT 1400 FT. WE TALKED WITH THE FBO PERSON ON DUTY AND SHE STATED THAT THE 'LOCALS' NEVER PAID ATTN TO THEIR TA'S. USING RWY 6 AND RWY 13 AT THE SAME TIME IS A DANGEROUS PRACTICE. WHEN WE WERE READY FOR TKOF AT RWY 13, WE COULD NOT SEE THE TKOF AREA OF RWY 6. BUILDINGS BLOCK THE VIEW. THIS IS A TRAINING BASE WHICH CREATES A LOT OF TFC. RWY 6 IS TOO SHORT FOR JETS. THERE USED TO BE A CTL TWR THERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE RE-MANNED BEFORE THERE IS A COLLISION. THERE IS SERIOUS DANGER WHEN BOTH RWYS ARE BEING USED AND UNICOM DOES NOT HAVE ANY AUTH, NOR SHOULD IT HAVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.