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Attributes | |
ACN | 457720 |
Time | |
Date | 199912 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : phx.vortac |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 457720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During descent on fossl 4 arrival to phx, we were given a clearance to cross tonto at 12000 ft. ATC then amended it to 14000 ft MSL, then to 13000 ft MSL, and slow to 250 KTS. The PNF checked off ATC to talk to company. The PF notified ATC that they could not make the 12000 ft restr at tonto. The PNF came back on frequency at this time and we both thought we heard a clearance to 12000 ft MSL and 250 KTS with a frequency change. The PNF responded to ATC '12000 ft at 250 KTS.' then changed frequency to approach who questioned our altitude. 1) PF did not ensure ATC did give clearance to 12000 ft MSL. 2) ATC did not catch readback of 12000 ft MSL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FLC FLEW A CLRNC INTENDED FOR ANOTHER ACFT ON DSCNT INTO PHX.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT ON FOSSL 4 ARR TO PHX, WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS TONTO AT 12000 FT. ATC THEN AMENDED IT TO 14000 FT MSL, THEN TO 13000 FT MSL, AND SLOW TO 250 KTS. THE PNF CHKED OFF ATC TO TALK TO COMPANY. THE PF NOTIFIED ATC THAT THEY COULD NOT MAKE THE 12000 FT RESTR AT TONTO. THE PNF CAME BACK ON FREQ AT THIS TIME AND WE BOTH THOUGHT WE HEARD A CLRNC TO 12000 FT MSL AND 250 KTS WITH A FREQ CHANGE. THE PNF RESPONDED TO ATC '12000 FT AT 250 KTS.' THEN CHANGED FREQ TO APCH WHO QUESTIONED OUR ALT. 1) PF DID NOT ENSURE ATC DID GIVE CLRNC TO 12000 FT MSL. 2) ATC DID NOT CATCH READBACK OF 12000 FT MSL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.