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A B757 crew gets overloaded during a last min holding clearance thrown at them by ZDC ARTCC when the controller was late in effecting a handoff to N90 approach control near rbv, nj.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 459688 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200001 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : rbv.vortac |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 04r other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 459688 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zdc.artcc |
Narrative:
ZDC issued clearance, 'hold at rbv as published, 8000 ft, efc XA35Z,' when we were 1 mi from rbv at 250 KIAS, ground speed 300 KTS! Captain (fairly new in type and first FMS aircraft) was flying. He went heads down to FMC and began typing in hold parameters. I spun heading select wheel to right to enter hold on MCP and tuned rbv and hold radial manually on VOR. At completion of 180 degree turn, received clearance to 'fly direct rbv and contact new york approach.' I asked controller what happened and he claimed new york approach never took the handoff. New york approach immediately cleared us to fly heading 060 degrees to jopin runway 4R localizer ewr, but captain (PF) did not arm localizer and flew through it. ZDC should not have waited (they always do) -- too late to try to hand us off. ATC sectors need to start working together better. Over 100 times have I had 1 sector slow me or s-turn/vector me for 'spacing' while the next one says 'maximum forward speed' or vice versa. Low time captain should have asked me to program FMS (and I should've more assertively offered to, and he should have flown the airplane. Of course, I should have caught the fact that captain did not arm localizer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 CREW GETS OVERLOADED DURING A LAST MIN HOLDING CLRNC THROWN AT THEM BY ZDC ARTCC WHEN THE CTLR WAS LATE IN EFFECTING A HDOF TO N90 APCH CTL NEAR RBV, NJ.
Narrative: ZDC ISSUED CLRNC, 'HOLD AT RBV AS PUBLISHED, 8000 FT, EFC XA35Z,' WHEN WE WERE 1 MI FROM RBV AT 250 KIAS, GND SPD 300 KTS! CAPT (FAIRLY NEW IN TYPE AND FIRST FMS ACFT) WAS FLYING. HE WENT HEADS DOWN TO FMC AND BEGAN TYPING IN HOLD PARAMETERS. I SPUN HDG SELECT WHEEL TO R TO ENTER HOLD ON MCP AND TUNED RBV AND HOLD RADIAL MANUALLY ON VOR. AT COMPLETION OF 180 DEG TURN, RECEIVED CLRNC TO 'FLY DIRECT RBV AND CONTACT NEW YORK APCH.' I ASKED CTLR WHAT HAPPENED AND HE CLAIMED NEW YORK APCH NEVER TOOK THE HDOF. NEW YORK APCH IMMEDIATELY CLRED US TO FLY HDG 060 DEGS TO JOPIN RWY 4R LOC EWR, BUT CAPT (PF) DID NOT ARM LOC AND FLEW THROUGH IT. ZDC SHOULD NOT HAVE WAITED (THEY ALWAYS DO) -- TOO LATE TO TRY TO HAND US OFF. ATC SECTORS NEED TO START WORKING TOGETHER BETTER. OVER 100 TIMES HAVE I HAD 1 SECTOR SLOW ME OR S-TURN/VECTOR ME FOR 'SPACING' WHILE THE NEXT ONE SAYS 'MAX FORWARD SPD' OR VICE VERSA. LOW TIME CAPT SHOULD HAVE ASKED ME TO PROGRAM FMS (AND I SHOULD'VE MORE ASSERTIVELY OFFERED TO, AND HE SHOULD HAVE FLOWN THE AIRPLANE. OF COURSE, I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE FACT THAT CAPT DID NOT ARM LOC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.