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Attributes | |
ACN | 461000 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pie.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 22000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Learjet 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 461000 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 461229 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
ZJX issued FL230 on climb clearance. Crew was told to expect FL210 as a final by tlh clearance delivery. At FL217, ATC issued crew to stop climb at FL220. We did so. Conflicting traffic was noted on TCASII at FL230. We got no TCASII advisory. Traffic was visually noted also. Crew was aware of conflict and no danger existed. I believe pilots should take note and question altitudes that are higher than expected on clearance received on the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC WERE ALERTED TO STOP CLB BY ARTCC CTLR FOR TFC SEPARATION AND ADVISED THAT THEIR ORIGINAL CLRNC WAS A LOWER ALT.
Narrative: ZJX ISSUED FL230 ON CLB CLRNC. CREW WAS TOLD TO EXPECT FL210 AS A FINAL BY TLH CLRNC DELIVERY. AT FL217, ATC ISSUED CREW TO STOP CLB AT FL220. WE DID SO. CONFLICTING TFC WAS NOTED ON TCASII AT FL230. WE GOT NO TCASII ADVISORY. TFC WAS VISUALLY NOTED ALSO. CREW WAS AWARE OF CONFLICT AND NO DANGER EXISTED. I BELIEVE PLTS SHOULD TAKE NOTE AND QUESTION ALTS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED ON CLRNC RECEIVED ON THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.