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Attributes | |
ACN | 461115 |
Time | |
Date | 200001 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 151 flight time total : 5065 flight time type : 151 |
ASRS Report | 461115 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the evening of jan/sun/00, at approximately XA30, I (first officer for arc X) was on a flight from bdl to acy. Only the captain, flight attendant and myself were aboard with no passenger. We were repositioning to acy for a charter flight. The captain was the PF. We were level at 11000 ft with ZNY between cloud layers. The center called out traffic at 1 O'clock position (cannot recall distance) and we acknowledged in sight. Center then cleared us to maintain visual separation and climb to 16000 ft. The captain and I observed the traffic on TCASII (which was set to normal) and he (captain) initiated the climb to 16000 ft. At 13000 ft we received a TA on our TCASII followed by an RA with a command to descend. The captain disengaged the autoplt and followed the command on the vsi. We both then observed an additional aircraft appear below the cloud deck at 1 O'clock position. The aircraft, I assume, must have had visual contact with us at that time. Because a transmission was made to center of our intentions, I followed with a transmission stating that we were leveling. The aircraft passed overhead at 1 O'clock position, less than 1000 ft. No other xmissions were made. We then resumed our climb to 16000 ft. The incident made us very cautious with accepting clrncs to maintain visual separation to climb or descend. Our confidence in our TCASII was also reinforced.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A CANADAIR CL65 REGIONAL JET DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND SUBSEQUENTLY OBSERVED AN ACFT PASS 1000 FT OVERHEAD. ARTCC CTLR HAD PREVIOUSLY ISSUED A TA OF ANOTHER ACFT TO WHICH THEY HAD MAINTAINED VISUAL SEPARATION.
Narrative: ON THE EVENING OF JAN/SUN/00, AT APPROX XA30, I (FO FOR ARC X) WAS ON A FLT FROM BDL TO ACY. ONLY THE CAPT, FLT ATTENDANT AND MYSELF WERE ABOARD WITH NO PAX. WE WERE REPOSITIONING TO ACY FOR A CHARTER FLT. THE CAPT WAS THE PF. WE WERE LEVEL AT 11000 FT WITH ZNY BTWN CLOUD LAYERS. THE CTR CALLED OUT TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK POS (CANNOT RECALL DISTANCE) AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED IN SIGHT. CTR THEN CLRED US TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION AND CLB TO 16000 FT. THE CAPT AND I OBSERVED THE TFC ON TCASII (WHICH WAS SET TO NORMAL) AND HE (CAPT) INITIATED THE CLB TO 16000 FT. AT 13000 FT WE RECEIVED A TA ON OUR TCASII FOLLOWED BY AN RA WITH A COMMAND TO DSND. THE CAPT DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT AND FOLLOWED THE COMMAND ON THE VSI. WE BOTH THEN OBSERVED AN ADDITIONAL ACFT APPEAR BELOW THE CLOUD DECK AT 1 O'CLOCK POS. THE ACFT, I ASSUME, MUST HAVE HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH US AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE A TRANSMISSION WAS MADE TO CTR OF OUR INTENTIONS, I FOLLOWED WITH A TRANSMISSION STATING THAT WE WERE LEVELING. THE ACFT PASSED OVERHEAD AT 1 O'CLOCK POS, LESS THAN 1000 FT. NO OTHER XMISSIONS WERE MADE. WE THEN RESUMED OUR CLB TO 16000 FT. THE INCIDENT MADE US VERY CAUTIOUS WITH ACCEPTING CLRNCS TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION TO CLB OR DSND. OUR CONFIDENCE IN OUR TCASII WAS ALSO REINFORCED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.