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An SF340 crosses the hold line for runway 36R after believing that the flight had been cleared to cross runway 36R while a B737 was just rotating at dfw, tx.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 461240 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200001 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340B |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2100 |
| ASRS Report | 461240 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We landed runway 36L at dfw exiting second high speed. Tower told us to go north on taxiway east to taxiway Y, cross runway 36R ground .8 on top. When we got to taxiway Y, I knew we were cleared but wanted confirmation because way downfield a B737 had just rotated. The B737 was in no danger but we stopped approximately 5 yards beyond the hold short line, but short of the runway. Tower told us we had not been cleared but to cross runway 36R ground .8 on bridge. We quizzed him on our clearance, but he said he had not cleared us. At no time was any aircraft in danger or safety compromised. More staff needed in tower. He may have been working with minimal help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF340 CROSSES THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 36R AFTER BELIEVING THAT THE FLT HAD BEEN CLRED TO CROSS RWY 36R WHILE A B737 WAS JUST ROTATING AT DFW, TX.
Narrative: WE LANDED RWY 36L AT DFW EXITING SECOND HIGH SPD. TWR TOLD US TO GO N ON TXWY E TO TXWY Y, CROSS RWY 36R GND .8 ON TOP. WHEN WE GOT TO TXWY Y, I KNEW WE WERE CLRED BUT WANTED CONFIRMATION BECAUSE WAY DOWNFIELD A B737 HAD JUST ROTATED. THE B737 WAS IN NO DANGER BUT WE STOPPED APPROX 5 YARDS BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE, BUT SHORT OF THE RWY. TWR TOLD US WE HAD NOT BEEN CLRED BUT TO CROSS RWY 36R GND .8 ON BRIDGE. WE QUIZZED HIM ON OUR CLRNC, BUT HE SAID HE HAD NOT CLRED US. AT NO TIME WAS ANY ACFT IN DANGER OR SAFETY COMPROMISED. MORE STAFF NEEDED IN TWR. HE MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH MINIMAL HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.