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S80 flight crew required to stop on taxiway due to opposite direction B747. Ord ground controller apparently unaware of situation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 461978 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200001 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Snow |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 129 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 461978 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 20 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Conditions: moderate snowfall, slick txwys, RVR 5000 ft. Taxi via taxiway a, taxiway A13, taxiway M3, taxiway M runway 9R. Hold short of runway 14 and follow an air carrier at taxiway M2. Just short of turning onto taxiway M, the captain saw a B747 traveling on taxiway M towards us at 30-40 mph. We were able to stop. We asked ground who was supposed to give way to who -- with no response -- 3 times. Finally told ground how close it was -- 20 ft, and they said roger, and then changed controllers. Never heard B747 talk to ground or us. They could not have stopped if we had proceeded as instructed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 FLC REQUIRED TO STOP ON TXWY DUE TO OPPOSITE DIRECTION B747. ORD GND CTLR APPARENTLY UNAWARE OF SIT.
Narrative: CONDITIONS: MODERATE SNOWFALL, SLICK TXWYS, RVR 5000 FT. TAXI VIA TXWY A, TXWY A13, TXWY M3, TXWY M RWY 9R. HOLD SHORT OF RWY 14 AND FOLLOW AN ACR AT TXWY M2. JUST SHORT OF TURNING ONTO TXWY M, THE CAPT SAW A B747 TRAVELING ON TXWY M TOWARDS US AT 30-40 MPH. WE WERE ABLE TO STOP. WE ASKED GND WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE WAY TO WHO -- WITH NO RESPONSE -- 3 TIMES. FINALLY TOLD GND HOW CLOSE IT WAS -- 20 FT, AND THEY SAID ROGER, AND THEN CHANGED CTLRS. NEVER HEARD B747 TALK TO GND OR US. THEY COULD NOT HAVE STOPPED IF WE HAD PROCEEDED AS INSTRUCTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.