A C150 pilot's safety improvement suggestion related to obtaining VFR clrncs into the class B area o...

Attributes
ACN	464500
Time
Date	200002
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cvg.airport
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Cessna 150
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other other vortac
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute : direct enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 350
ASRS Report	464500
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Since cincinnati has become class B airspace, I have found most of the approach controllers there very helpful when weeding a VFR clearance through the class B airspace. I have found that one must almost always remind the controller to issue a clearance into the class B airspace. Otherwise, they will just omit the 'clearance' and allow you to fly into the class B airspace on their vector and altitude assignment. While this might not present a problem most of the time, if anything did happen, they could pull the tapes and hang you out to dry for not having a clearance into the class B airspace. Perhaps this is happening due to the newness (1 1/2 yrs) of the cvg class B airspace. Other than this, the cvg controllers are very good with VFR traffic.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A C150 PLT'S SAFETY IMPROVEMENT SUGGESTION RELATED TO OBTAINING VFR CLRNCS INTO THE CLASS B AREA OF CVG, OH.

Narrative: SINCE CINCINNATI HAS BECOME CLASS B AIRSPACE, I HAVE FOUND MOST OF THE APCH CTLRS THERE VERY HELPFUL WHEN WEEDING A VFR CLRNC THROUGH THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. I HAVE FOUND THAT ONE MUST ALMOST ALWAYS REMIND THE CTLR TO ISSUE A CLRNC INTO THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. OTHERWISE, THEY WILL JUST OMIT THE 'CLRNC' AND ALLOW YOU TO FLY INTO THE CLASS B AIRSPACE ON THEIR VECTOR AND ALT ASSIGNMENT. WHILE THIS MIGHT NOT PRESENT A PROB MOST OF THE TIME, IF ANYTHING DID HAPPEN, THEY COULD PULL THE TAPES AND HANG YOU OUT TO DRY FOR NOT HAVING A CLRNC INTO THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. PERHAPS THIS IS HAPPENING DUE TO THE NEWNESS (1 1/2 YRS) OF THE CVG CLASS B AIRSPACE. OTHER THAN THIS, THE CVG CTLRS ARE VERY GOOD WITH VFR TFC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A C150 pilot's safety improvement suggestion related to obtaining VFR clrncs into the class B area of cvg, oh.