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Attributes | |
ACN | 465747 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Learjet 25 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 465747 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : altimeter transporter readout aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight from clt to bna. The altitude was FL280 and we were in contact with ZTL. We were climbing to FL280 when we were told we had traffic at our 11-12 O'clock position. About 30 seconds after reaching FL280 we heard the air carrier X plane say that they needed an immediate turn. They showed on their TCASII that we were climbing. ZTL then asked us what our altitude was. We said FL280 and 29.92 was set in the altimeter window. There were no flags to indicate a problem. ATC said that we were indicating FL289. We went to standby on the pilot's altimeter and flew the rest of the trip by correction. After reaching bna and describing the problem to our maintenance personnel, the problem was eventually found. Some of our learjets have a switch that can swap the mode C to read from the pilot's to the copilot's altimeter. ATC and the plane were getting a reading from the copilot's altimeter, which in turn made us look higher than we actually were. The pilot's altimeter was correct and we were at FL280. At no time was there an altitude incursion. The switch in question has since been put back in the pilot position and the switch has been guarded to prevent inadvertent misplacement. The switch in question must have been accidentally hit before the flight. That is why the switch is now guarded. The switch is not a common thing on a learjet and at no time in a checklist is the switch to be checked for proper position. I would like to add that ATC never did advise us that we were showing higher than we were supposed to be. It was not until air carrier X said something that the problem was noticed. Whatever action air carrier X took to deviate was at their discretion and at no time was there a possibility of an altitude incursion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A LEARJET WERE INADVERTENTLY XMITTING A HIGHER ALT THAN ASSIGNED DUE TO SHOWING THE COPLT ALTIMETER SETTING RATHER THAN THE CAPT'S.
Narrative: FLT FROM CLT TO BNA. THE ALT WAS FL280 AND WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH ZTL. WE WERE CLBING TO FL280 WHEN WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TFC AT OUR 11-12 O'CLOCK POS. ABOUT 30 SECONDS AFTER REACHING FL280 WE HEARD THE ACR X PLANE SAY THAT THEY NEEDED AN IMMEDIATE TURN. THEY SHOWED ON THEIR TCASII THAT WE WERE CLBING. ZTL THEN ASKED US WHAT OUR ALT WAS. WE SAID FL280 AND 29.92 WAS SET IN THE ALTIMETER WINDOW. THERE WERE NO FLAGS TO INDICATE A PROB. ATC SAID THAT WE WERE INDICATING FL289. WE WENT TO STANDBY ON THE PLT'S ALTIMETER AND FLEW THE REST OF THE TRIP BY CORRECTION. AFTER REACHING BNA AND DESCRIBING THE PROB TO OUR MAINT PERSONNEL, THE PROB WAS EVENTUALLY FOUND. SOME OF OUR LEARJETS HAVE A SWITCH THAT CAN SWAP THE MODE C TO READ FROM THE PLT'S TO THE COPLT'S ALTIMETER. ATC AND THE PLANE WERE GETTING A READING FROM THE COPLT'S ALTIMETER, WHICH IN TURN MADE US LOOK HIGHER THAN WE ACTUALLY WERE. THE PLT'S ALTIMETER WAS CORRECT AND WE WERE AT FL280. AT NO TIME WAS THERE AN ALT INCURSION. THE SWITCH IN QUESTION HAS SINCE BEEN PUT BACK IN THE PLT POS AND THE SWITCH HAS BEEN GUARDED TO PREVENT INADVERTENT MISPLACEMENT. THE SWITCH IN QUESTION MUST HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTALLY HIT BEFORE THE FLT. THAT IS WHY THE SWITCH IS NOW GUARDED. THE SWITCH IS NOT A COMMON THING ON A LEARJET AND AT NO TIME IN A CHKLIST IS THE SWITCH TO BE CHKED FOR PROPER POS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT ATC NEVER DID ADVISE US THAT WE WERE SHOWING HIGHER THAN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. IT WAS NOT UNTIL ACR X SAID SOMETHING THAT THE PROB WAS NOTICED. WHATEVER ACTION ACR X TOOK TO DEVIATE WAS AT THEIR DISCRETION AND AT NO TIME WAS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF AN ALT INCURSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.