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A B757 flight crew taxies their aircraft past the designated hold area when they are unable to contact ground controller prior to further taxi at lax, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 466580 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200003 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Rain |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 466500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Ramp control gave us taxi instructions to spot X and to contact ground control 121.9 at that point. Approaching spot X I tried to contact ground 3 or 4 times. This captain continued to taxi past spot X and joined the line up for departures on taxiway. He continued to try to contact ground control on his radio and finally did after we had taxied to intersection. Ground asked if we had just taxied on our own and the captain replied, 'yes.' no other communication with ATC regarding this event followed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 FLC TAXIES THEIR ACFT PAST THE DESIGNATED HOLD AREA WHEN THEY ARE UNABLE TO CONTACT GND CTLR PRIOR TO FURTHER TAXI AT LAX, CA.
Narrative: RAMP CTL GAVE US TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO SPOT X AND TO CONTACT GND CTL 121.9 AT THAT POINT. APCHING SPOT X I TRIED TO CONTACT GND 3 OR 4 TIMES. THIS CAPT CONTINUED TO TAXI PAST SPOT X AND JOINED THE LINE UP FOR DEPS ON TXWY. HE CONTINUED TO TRY TO CONTACT GND CTL ON HIS RADIO AND FINALLY DID AFTER WE HAD TAXIED TO INTXN. GND ASKED IF WE HAD JUST TAXIED ON OUR OWN AND THE CAPT REPLIED, 'YES.' NO OTHER COM WITH ATC REGARDING THIS EVENT FOLLOWED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.