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Attributes | |
ACN | 466778 |
Time | |
Date | 200003 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ojc.airport |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ojc.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24.5 flight time total : 67.2 flight time type : 47 |
ASRS Report | 466778 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | excursion : runway other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I went to the airport early to pre-heat the engine. At XA30 I pulled the plane out of the hangar, started the engine, and received ground control permission to cross the active runway to pick up my instructor. I then learned that my instructor was sick at home and was unable to fly. By telephone, my instructor encouraged me to get some solo practice on lndgs. I received tower permission to depart on runway 18 to the south practice area. At the end of 1 hour, I returned to the field to find that surface winds had increased sharply, probably doubling in force. The winds were variable between 110 degrees and 80 degrees at 12 KTS. I entered a right downwind for runway 18. On final, using 20 degrees of flap, I was overshooting and I applied power and went around. When I was again cleared to land, I tried 20 degrees of flaps again but was overshooting again and went to 30 degrees of flap. I held the centerline ok in a slip to the left but it required almost full right rudder to hold it. I touched down on the left main first, and seemed to be ok, but when the right main touched it seemed that a giant gust slammed me to the right, the wingtip struck the ground and the propeller struck the ground. As quickly as it happened, it was over. The engine continued running, and as I had left the runway, I taxied across the grass to the taxiway and added power to get on the hard surface. The tower asked if I required assistance and I said, 'no, it seems to be moving ok,' and I returned to the hangar. I was not injured and the damage appeared to be minor, but I was stunned and badly shaken by the incident. My instructor believes that in holding so much right rudder, I also held full right brake on touchdown. (I wear size 14 shoes in an airplane that seems designed for about size 9 shoes and had previously dragged some brake even on takeoffs.) I have been assured that no adjustments are possible on cessnas.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT LEAVES RWY AFTER HARD LNDG WITH BRAKE SET. COMPLAINS THAT ACFT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR PERSON WITH LARGE FEET.
Narrative: I WENT TO THE ARPT EARLY TO PRE-HEAT THE ENG. AT XA30 I PULLED THE PLANE OUT OF THE HANGAR, STARTED THE ENG, AND RECEIVED GND CTL PERMISSION TO CROSS THE ACTIVE RWY TO PICK UP MY INSTRUCTOR. I THEN LEARNED THAT MY INSTRUCTOR WAS SICK AT HOME AND WAS UNABLE TO FLY. BY TELEPHONE, MY INSTRUCTOR ENCOURAGED ME TO GET SOME SOLO PRACTICE ON LNDGS. I RECEIVED TWR PERMISSION TO DEPART ON RWY 18 TO THE S PRACTICE AREA. AT THE END OF 1 HR, I RETURNED TO THE FIELD TO FIND THAT SURFACE WINDS HAD INCREASED SHARPLY, PROBABLY DOUBLING IN FORCE. THE WINDS WERE VARIABLE BTWN 110 DEGS AND 80 DEGS AT 12 KTS. I ENTERED A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 18. ON FINAL, USING 20 DEGS OF FLAP, I WAS OVERSHOOTING AND I APPLIED PWR AND WENT AROUND. WHEN I WAS AGAIN CLRED TO LAND, I TRIED 20 DEGS OF FLAPS AGAIN BUT WAS OVERSHOOTING AGAIN AND WENT TO 30 DEGS OF FLAP. I HELD THE CTRLINE OK IN A SLIP TO THE L BUT IT REQUIRED ALMOST FULL R RUDDER TO HOLD IT. I TOUCHED DOWN ON THE L MAIN FIRST, AND SEEMED TO BE OK, BUT WHEN THE R MAIN TOUCHED IT SEEMED THAT A GIANT GUST SLAMMED ME TO THE R, THE WINGTIP STRUCK THE GND AND THE PROP STRUCK THE GND. AS QUICKLY AS IT HAPPENED, IT WAS OVER. THE ENG CONTINUED RUNNING, AND AS I HAD LEFT THE RWY, I TAXIED ACROSS THE GRASS TO THE TXWY AND ADDED PWR TO GET ON THE HARD SURFACE. THE TWR ASKED IF I REQUIRED ASSISTANCE AND I SAID, 'NO, IT SEEMS TO BE MOVING OK,' AND I RETURNED TO THE HANGAR. I WAS NOT INJURED AND THE DAMAGE APPEARED TO BE MINOR, BUT I WAS STUNNED AND BADLY SHAKEN BY THE INCIDENT. MY INSTRUCTOR BELIEVES THAT IN HOLDING SO MUCH R RUDDER, I ALSO HELD FULL R BRAKE ON TOUCHDOWN. (I WEAR SIZE 14 SHOES IN AN AIRPLANE THAT SEEMS DESIGNED FOR ABOUT SIZE 9 SHOES AND HAD PREVIOUSLY DRAGGED SOME BRAKE EVEN ON TKOFS.) I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT NO ADJUSTMENTS ARE POSSIBLE ON CESSNAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.