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Attributes | |
ACN | 468596 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hsp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 12r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 468596 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared for visual approach to runway 12R at msp. Restr to 170 KIAS until 5 mi final. Aircraft in front of us was an A320 also restr to 170 KIAS until 5 mi final. ATC (msp approach) advised we had 4 mi spacing. While on approach, we closed to about 3 mi on the A320 (confirmed visually and on TCASII). At 5 mi final, we slowed to our final approach speed (155 KIAS) and contacted msp tower. Tower cleared us to land and advised we had 40 KIAS overtake on the A320. The captain elected to continue the approach but rebriefed the go around procedures. The A320 touched down and it appeared that the A320 would clear by the time we touched down. The A320 then rolled out almost to the end of runway 12R and turned off on taxiway A12 (9500 ft down runway 12R). It appeared that we would touch down after they cleared and the captain continued the approach and began the flare. The A320 stopped on taxiway A12 and we touched down with their tail still obstructing runway 12R. In retrospect, we should have gone around prior to 100 ft AGL when the A320 still was on the runway. However, with 9500 ft of available runway, I do not believe safety was compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 ACFT OCCUPY THE SAME RWY AT MSP, MN.
Narrative: CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 12R AT MSP. RESTR TO 170 KIAS UNTIL 5 MI FINAL. ACFT IN FRONT OF US WAS AN A320 ALSO RESTR TO 170 KIAS UNTIL 5 MI FINAL. ATC (MSP APCH) ADVISED WE HAD 4 MI SPACING. WHILE ON APCH, WE CLOSED TO ABOUT 3 MI ON THE A320 (CONFIRMED VISUALLY AND ON TCASII). AT 5 MI FINAL, WE SLOWED TO OUR FINAL APCH SPD (155 KIAS) AND CONTACTED MSP TWR. TWR CLRED US TO LAND AND ADVISED WE HAD 40 KIAS OVERTAKE ON THE A320. THE CAPT ELECTED TO CONTINUE THE APCH BUT REBRIEFED THE GAR PROCS. THE A320 TOUCHED DOWN AND IT APPEARED THAT THE A320 WOULD CLR BY THE TIME WE TOUCHED DOWN. THE A320 THEN ROLLED OUT ALMOST TO THE END OF RWY 12R AND TURNED OFF ON TXWY A12 (9500 FT DOWN RWY 12R). IT APPEARED THAT WE WOULD TOUCH DOWN AFTER THEY CLRED AND THE CAPT CONTINUED THE APCH AND BEGAN THE FLARE. THE A320 STOPPED ON TXWY A12 AND WE TOUCHED DOWN WITH THEIR TAIL STILL OBSTRUCTING RWY 12R. IN RETROSPECT, WE SHOULD HAVE GONE AROUND PRIOR TO 100 FT AGL WHEN THE A320 STILL WAS ON THE RWY. HOWEVER, WITH 9500 FT OF AVAILABLE RWY, I DO NOT BELIEVE SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.