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Attributes | |
ACN | 468930 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 1900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pwk.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 468930 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : pwk.airport |
Airspace Structure | class b : ord.b |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan in a hawker 700 from ind to pwk. The WX was VFR at pwk. The wind was 290 degrees at 12 KTS, gusting to 15 KTS. I did not want to land on runway 16 with the tailwind, so in order to land on runway 34 at pwk I had to cancel IFR and circle to land runway 34. The tower wouldn't or couldn't allow an IFR clearance to runway 34 because of conflicting airspace at ord. I circled to land on runway 34 at pwk while I was trying to go through checklists, terminal charts to avoid ord class B airspace. I'm not sure if I entered any of ord's class B airspace, but it was very close. The tower at pwk told me to turn northwest to avoid the ord class B airspace. I feel that in the interest of safety, instead of having to land downwind on a relatively short runway, there could be coordination between the 2 towers so I wouldn't have to cancel the clearance so close to a very high traffic area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: H25B CREW WAS NOT ALLOWED TO LAND ON THE MOST APPROPRIATE RWY AT PWK WITHOUT CANCELING IFR CLRNC. THEY HAD A POSSIBLE INCURSION INTO ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE DURING A CIRCLING APCH.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN IN A HAWKER 700 FROM IND TO PWK. THE WX WAS VFR AT PWK. THE WIND WAS 290 DEGS AT 12 KTS, GUSTING TO 15 KTS. I DID NOT WANT TO LAND ON RWY 16 WITH THE TAILWIND, SO IN ORDER TO LAND ON RWY 34 AT PWK I HAD TO CANCEL IFR AND CIRCLE TO LAND RWY 34. THE TWR WOULDN'T OR COULDN'T ALLOW AN IFR CLRNC TO RWY 34 BECAUSE OF CONFLICTING AIRSPACE AT ORD. I CIRCLED TO LAND ON RWY 34 AT PWK WHILE I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH CHKLISTS, TERMINAL CHARTS TO AVOID ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE. I'M NOT SURE IF I ENTERED ANY OF ORD'S CLASS B AIRSPACE, BUT IT WAS VERY CLOSE. THE TWR AT PWK TOLD ME TO TURN NW TO AVOID THE ORD CLASS B AIRSPACE. I FEEL THAT IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO LAND DOWNWIND ON A RELATIVELY SHORT RWY, THERE COULD BE COORD BTWN THE 2 TWRS SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL THE CLRNC SO CLOSE TO A VERY HIGH TFC AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.