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A B727 cargo flight taxies to the active runway without having contacted eddf ground controller, basing their taxi on the expected taxi route given by the eddf apron controller. Eddf. First officer.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 470450 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200004 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : eddf.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 740450 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared by apron control to taxi to runway via assigned routing. Read back full taxi clearance. Taxied to runway to hold short behind B737. Called tower. Tower asked us our position. We told them 'on taxiway behind B737, holding short.' tower then informed us we were supposed to call ground after apron and we did not have clearance to be where we were. We apologized and did not argue about apron clearance. Being in a foreign country, language was somewhat of a problem. Should have held at apron exit (I guess) and called ground. After apron gave full clearance to runway, we 'assumed' that we had clearance all the way to runway and they were merely filling in for ground. Tower did not see it that way.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 CARGO FLT TAXIES TO THE ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT HAVING CONTACTED EDDF GND CTLR, BASING THEIR TAXI ON THE EXPECTED TAXI RTE GIVEN BY THE EDDF APRON CTLR. EDDF. FO.
Narrative: CLRED BY APRON CTL TO TAXI TO RWY VIA ASSIGNED ROUTING. READ BACK FULL TAXI CLRNC. TAXIED TO RWY TO HOLD SHORT BEHIND B737. CALLED TWR. TWR ASKED US OUR POS. WE TOLD THEM 'ON TXWY BEHIND B737, HOLDING SHORT.' TWR THEN INFORMED US WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL GND AFTER APRON AND WE DID NOT HAVE CLRNC TO BE WHERE WE WERE. WE APOLOGIZED AND DID NOT ARGUE ABOUT APRON CLRNC. BEING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, LANGUAGE WAS SOMEWHAT OF A PROB. SHOULD HAVE HELD AT APRON EXIT (I GUESS) AND CALLED GND. AFTER APRON GAVE FULL CLRNC TO RWY, WE 'ASSUMED' THAT WE HAD CLRNC ALL THE WAY TO RWY AND THEY WERE MERELY FILLING IN FOR GND. TWR DID NOT SEE IT THAT WAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.