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Captain of an air carrier mdt jet made a 360 degree turn during final to provide spacing with the aircraft ahead causing some confusion when the approach controller made handoff to the tower.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 471300 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200004 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6650 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 471300 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On approach to lga we asked to do a left 360 degree turn on final for spacing. The radio was busy and ATC heard just 'left turn' and thought an s-turn was what we wanted. After hearing a landing clearance for the traffic behind us given, we asked to clarify what ATC want us to do. Now we are all on the same page and spacing was appropriate and all turned out well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN ACR MDT JET MADE A 360 DEG TURN DURING FINAL TO PROVIDE SPACING WITH THE ACFT AHEAD CAUSING SOME CONFUSION WHEN THE APCH CTLR MADE HDOF TO THE TWR.
Narrative: ON APPROACH TO LGA WE ASKED TO DO A L 360 DEG TURN ON FINAL FOR SPACING. THE RADIO WAS BUSY AND ATC HEARD JUST 'L TURN' AND THOUGHT AN S-TURN WAS WHAT WE WANTED. AFTER HEARING A LNDG CLEARANCE FOR THE TRAFFIC BEHIND US GIVEN, WE ASKED TO CLARIFY WHAT ATC WANT US TO DO. NOW WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND SPACING WAS APPROPRIATE AND ALL TURNED OUT WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.