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Attributes | |
ACN | 471408 |
Time | |
Date | 200004 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx.airport |
State Reference | AB |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | F28 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach instruction : instructor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 12 |
ASRS Report | 471408 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : approach instruction : trainee |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Air carrier X, F28, a pdx arrival from the south descending for pdx. I observed a VFR aircraft Y climbing sebound opposite direction to the air carrier X. I told the trainee to issue the traffic he did and the pilot had the traffic in sight and told us that the altitude of the traffic was good at 4400 ft MSL. The air carrier X stopped at 4500 ft. The pilot of the air carrier X seemed surprised that they did not get a TCASII alert. The VFR aircraft Y never called for advisories and approximately 5 mins was a problem with another arrival. I estimated the closest that they got were 1/2 mi or less and 100 ft. While it was good that the traffic had a transponder with altitude encoding, I believe that if we had a class B airspace, at portland, or, this aircraft would have been required to call us, that this problem could have been avoided.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: F28 INBOUND TO PDX HAS A CONFLICT WITH AN UNKNOWN VFR ACFT.
Narrative: ACR X, F28, A PDX ARR FROM THE S DSNDING FOR PDX. I OBSERVED A VFR ACFT Y CLBING SEBOUND OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO THE ACR X. I TOLD THE TRAINEE TO ISSUE THE TFC HE DID AND THE PLT HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT AND TOLD US THAT THE ALT OF THE TFC WAS GOOD AT 4400 FT MSL. THE ACR X STOPPED AT 4500 FT. THE PLT OF THE ACR X SEEMED SURPRISED THAT THEY DID NOT GET A TCASII ALERT. THE VFR ACFT Y NEVER CALLED FOR ADVISORIES AND APPROX 5 MINS WAS A PROB WITH ANOTHER ARR. I ESTIMATED THE CLOSEST THAT THEY GOT WERE 1/2 MI OR LESS AND 100 FT. WHILE IT WAS GOOD THAT THE TFC HAD A XPONDER WITH ALT ENCODING, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAD A CLASS B AIRSPACE, AT PORTLAND, OR, THIS ACFT WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO CALL US, THAT THIS PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.