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A cargo DC10-30 climbs above the last assigned altitude as given by brest control and is corrected by a second controller while 55 mi west of paris, cdg, first officer.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 475160 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200006 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lfff.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 30000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : lfff.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 475160 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6200 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 476032 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned airspace |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
On climb out from paris, france, we received clearance to climb to FL300 by brest (france) ATC, and acknowledged same. At FL297 (29700 ft) ATC questioned our altitude, we advised climbing to FL300 as cleared. They advised our flight level should be FL280, and that FL290 or FL310 was correct for our area, requested FL310 and were cleared to FL310. There was no further comment from french ATC as to why they cleared us to FL300. Supplemental information from acn 476032: the questioning of the altitude came immediately after a frequency change. It seemed to me like it was a coordination problem with the 2 different ATC sectors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CARGO DC10-30 CLBS ABOVE THE LAST ASSIGNED ALT AS GIVEN BY BREST CTL AND IS CORRECTED BY A SECOND CTLR WHILE 55 MI W OF PARIS, CDG, FO.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM PARIS, FRANCE, WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO CLB TO FL300 BY BREST (FRANCE) ATC, AND ACKNOWLEDGED SAME. AT FL297 (29700 FT) ATC QUESTIONED OUR ALT, WE ADVISED CLBING TO FL300 AS CLRED. THEY ADVISED OUR FLT LEVEL SHOULD BE FL280, AND THAT FL290 OR FL310 WAS CORRECT FOR OUR AREA, REQUESTED FL310 AND WERE CLRED TO FL310. THERE WAS NO FURTHER COMMENT FROM FRENCH ATC AS TO WHY THEY CLRED US TO FL300. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 476032: THE QUESTIONING OF THE ALT CAME IMMEDIATELY AFTER A FREQ CHANGE. IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE IT WAS A COORD PROB WITH THE 2 DIFFERENT ATC SECTORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.