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Attributes | |
ACN | 477198 |
Time | |
Date | 200006 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 50 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 477198 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic none taken : insufficient time none taken : anomaly accepted |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Landing runway 28L sfo. A B747-400 was sitting between 2 runways. I didn't notice he was sticking his tail over the hold line to my runway (runway 28L) until we were about 75 ft AGL. I determined we could land safely and that was the safest course of action. The first officer was flying. I advised sfo tower and they had the aircraft behind us go around. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that his aircraft was a B757 and the other aircraft was a B747-400. He further stated that he could see that the B747 had not pulled up to the hold short line and if he had, his tail would have been clear of the other hold short line. He also noted that the B747 pulled up and clear of the hold short line after his remark to the tower that 'the B747's tail is 30 ft over the hold short line.' he believes that this is an isolated incident since he has held at that location before and found sufficient room to hold between the hold lines. Also, the tower apparently not noticed the B747 hanging over until the reporter alerted them since the tower sent another aircraft around behind him until the B747 moved up to his hold short line.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN LGT COMPLAINED TO SFO TWR CTLR TO A B747 HOLDING BTWN HIS L PARALLEL RWY AND THE R WITH THE ACFT TAIL OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE, BUT CLR OF THE RWY. THE TWR ACKNOWLEDGED AND SENT THE NEXT ACFT AROUND.
Narrative: LNDG RWY 28L SFO. A B747-400 WAS SITTING BTWN 2 RWYS. I DIDN'T NOTICE HE WAS STICKING HIS TAIL OVER THE HOLD LINE TO MY RWY (RWY 28L) UNTIL WE WERE ABOUT 75 FT AGL. I DETERMINED WE COULD LAND SAFELY AND THAT WAS THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION. THE FO WAS FLYING. I ADVISED SFO TWR AND THEY HAD THE ACFT BEHIND US GO AROUND. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HIS ACFT WAS A B757 AND THE OTHER ACFT WAS A B747-400. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE COULD SEE THAT THE B747 HAD NOT PULLED UP TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND IF HE HAD, HIS TAIL WOULD HAVE BEEN CLR OF THE OTHER HOLD SHORT LINE. HE ALSO NOTED THAT THE B747 PULLED UP AND CLR OF THE HOLD SHORT LINE AFTER HIS REMARK TO THE TWR THAT 'THE B747'S TAIL IS 30 FT OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE.' HE BELIEVES THAT THIS IS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT SINCE HE HAS HELD AT THAT LOCATION BEFORE AND FOUND SUFFICIENT ROOM TO HOLD BTWN THE HOLD LINES. ALSO, THE TWR APPARENTLY NOT NOTICED THE B747 HANGING OVER UNTIL THE RPTR ALERTED THEM SINCE THE TWR SENT ANOTHER ACFT AROUND BEHIND HIM UNTIL THE B747 MOVED UP TO HIS HOLD SHORT LINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.