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Instrument rated private pilot had been waiting 30 mins for an IFR takeoff clearance and was then instructed by the local controller to taxi into position and hold, only then to be instructed to taxi off the runway and return to ground control to wait for his IFR release.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 477940 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200007 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cdw.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 32 flight time total : 1350 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 477940 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Prolonged wait for IFR release at cdw airport from new york TRACON (30 mins). Ground control advised waiting for tower release and monitor tower. Pilot asked 'how much longer for release?' tower instructed 'position and hold' on active runway. Pilot complied. Tower then instructed to exit the active runway and go back to ground control. Release was not in fact received though tower was about to issue takeoff clearance. Suggest tower verify with ground that IFR release was received prior to clearing 'in position and hold.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INST RATED PVT PLT HAD BEEN WAITING 30 MINS FOR AN IFR TKOF CLRNC AND WAS THEN INSTRUCTED BY THE LCL CTLR TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD, ONLY THEN TO BE INSTRUCTED TO TAXI OFF THE RWY AND RETURN TO GND CTL TO WAIT FOR HIS IFR RELEASE.
Narrative: PROLONGED WAIT FOR IFR RELEASE AT CDW ARPT FROM NEW YORK TRACON (30 MINS). GND CTL ADVISED WAITING FOR TWR RELEASE AND MONITOR TWR. PLT ASKED 'HOW MUCH LONGER FOR RELEASE?' TWR INSTRUCTED 'POS AND HOLD' ON ACTIVE RWY. PLT COMPLIED. TWR THEN INSTRUCTED TO EXIT THE ACTIVE RWY AND GO BACK TO GND CTL. RELEASE WAS NOT IN FACT RECEIVED THOUGH TWR WAS ABOUT TO ISSUE TKOF CLRNC. SUGGEST TWR VERIFY WITH GND THAT IFR RELEASE WAS RECEIVED PRIOR TO CLRING 'IN POS AND HOLD.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.