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Attributes | |
ACN | 479640 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sav.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc tracon : sav.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Route In Use | departure sid : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 479640 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On climb out from sav to clt, departure control cleared us to 12000 ft. Autoplt was on, so I put 12000 ft in the MCP altitude window and read back '12000 ft.' both PF and PNF verified 12000 ft. When we checked in with ZJX at about 9500 ft, ATC asked us if we were climbing to 10000 ft. Told him we were cleared to 12000 ft as we were passing through +/-10500. He said he thought we were cleared to 10000 ft, cleared us to 11000 ft, then said he would check with departure control. That was the last we heard about the clearance limit of 10000 ft versus 12000 ft from ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FO RPTED A MISUNDERSTANDING OF AN ALT CHANGE CLRNC FROM ZJX.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM SAV TO CLT, DEP CTL CLRED US TO 12000 FT. AUTOPLT WAS ON, SO I PUT 12000 FT IN THE MCP ALT WINDOW AND READ BACK '12000 FT.' BOTH PF AND PNF VERIFIED 12000 FT. WHEN WE CHKED IN WITH ZJX AT ABOUT 9500 FT, ATC ASKED US IF WE WERE CLBING TO 10000 FT. TOLD HIM WE WERE CLRED TO 12000 FT AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH +/-10500. HE SAID HE THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED TO 10000 FT, CLRED US TO 11000 FT, THEN SAID HE WOULD CHK WITH DEP CTL. THAT WAS THE LAST WE HEARD ABOUT THE CLRNC LIMIT OF 10000 FT VERSUS 12000 FT FROM ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.