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Attributes | |
ACN | 480350 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : bld.vortac |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : mead 2 pgs departure : on vectors departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 95 |
ASRS Report | 480530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
After departing las (runway 25R), las departure gave us heading 080 degrees (took us off FMS departure for this heading). About 15 NM wnw of bld, we understood departure to say 'direct pgs flight plan route.' when checking on with ZLA, we were queried about not being on the STAR. We told lax it was our understanding that from 080 degree heading we were cleared direct pgs flight plan route. To further substantiate this understanding, continuing on a heading of 080 degrees would never have intercepted the STAR (MEAD2.pgs) because we were too far north and departure did not give us another heading to intercept.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 CR32 HAD TRACK DEV IN ZLA CLASS E AIRSPACE.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING LAS (RWY 25R), LAS DEP GAVE US HDG 080 DEGS (TOOK US OFF FMS DEP FOR THIS HDG). ABOUT 15 NM WNW OF BLD, WE UNDERSTOOD DEP TO SAY 'DIRECT PGS FLT PLAN RTE.' WHEN CHKING ON WITH ZLA, WE WERE QUERIED ABOUT NOT BEING ON THE STAR. WE TOLD LAX IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT FROM 080 DEG HDG WE WERE CLRED DIRECT PGS FLT PLAN RTE. TO FURTHER SUBSTANTIATE THIS UNDERSTANDING, CONTINUING ON A HDG OF 080 DEGS WOULD NEVER HAVE INTERCEPTED THE STAR (MEAD2.PGS) BECAUSE WE WERE TOO FAR N AND DEP DID NOT GIVE US ANOTHER HDG TO INTERCEPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.