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Attributes | |
ACN | 480943 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 480943 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 280 |
ASRS Report | 480720 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport ATC Human Performance ATC Facility Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were holding at taxiway D to cross runway 12R at msp and taxi down the opposite side for takeoff on runway 12R. Taxiway on our side closed for construction. An air carrier Y DC9 rolled by for takeoff. As he passed I expected a call from ground to cross. I was captain in the right seat acting as first officer. Ground called only abc X, not air carrier Y abc, and said to join taxiway B and (unintelligible) and follow the air carrier Z. I saw the air carrier Z on the other side where I would have expected him to be and looked at the chart and saw txwys B and a. I didn't understand the controller after taxiway B but it looked reasonable. I called 'cpr jet abc -- roger.' the first officer started across the runway and someone said 'ground, you have an air carrier Y abc.' then I looked around the first officer and saw air carrier Y on a go around. I said we didn't clear the runway before crossing. He said I did and I didn't see him at first but when I did I thought he was farther out and for the other runway. This incident could have been avoided by the controller using the whole call sign. I will say in everyone's defense the radio traffic was horrendously heavy, as it always is at msp.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRNC CONFUSION, HVY TFC AND FREQ CONGESTION LEAD TO A RWY INCURSION AND GAR AT MSP, MN.
Narrative: WE WERE HOLDING AT TXWY D TO CROSS RWY 12R AT MSP AND TAXI DOWN THE OPPOSITE SIDE FOR TKOF ON RWY 12R. TXWY ON OUR SIDE CLOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION. AN ACR Y DC9 ROLLED BY FOR TKOF. AS HE PASSED I EXPECTED A CALL FROM GND TO CROSS. I WAS CAPT IN THE R SEAT ACTING AS FO. GND CALLED ONLY ABC X, NOT ACR Y ABC, AND SAID TO JOIN TXWY B AND (UNINTELLIGIBLE) AND FOLLOW THE ACR Z. I SAW THE ACR Z ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED HIM TO BE AND LOOKED AT THE CHART AND SAW TXWYS B AND A. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CTLR AFTER TXWY B BUT IT LOOKED REASONABLE. I CALLED 'CPR JET ABC -- ROGER.' THE FO STARTED ACROSS THE RWY AND SOMEONE SAID 'GND, YOU HAVE AN ACR Y ABC.' THEN I LOOKED AROUND THE FO AND SAW ACR Y ON A GAR. I SAID WE DIDN'T CLR THE RWY BEFORE XING. HE SAID I DID AND I DIDN'T SEE HIM AT FIRST BUT WHEN I DID I THOUGHT HE WAS FARTHER OUT AND FOR THE OTHER RWY. THIS INCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY THE CTLR USING THE WHOLE CALL SIGN. I WILL SAY IN EVERYONE'S DEFENSE THE RADIO TFC WAS HORRENDOUSLY HVY, AS IT ALWAYS IS AT MSP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.