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Attributes | |
ACN | 481900 |
Time | |
Date | 200007 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 481900 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 481425 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Weather Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On departure we were given a 090 degree heading which would have taken us into a thunderstorm cell east of the field. This cell was painting on radar. We asked for a left turn to avoid the cell and were told not to continue 090 degrees and go to departure control. We came within 3-5 mi of the cell and turned right to 140 degrees to avoid it and informed departure control of our heading. We probably should have tried to coordinate a heading with tower prior to takeoff roll. No TCASII alerts were received. Supplemental information from acn 481425: cleared for takeoff and instructed to fly a 090 degree heading after takeoff. We advised tower after liftoff that we would need a heading of 060 degrees to avoid WX (thunderstorm cell showing on radar and from cockpit). Tower advised he could not assign a 060 degree heading and for us to remain on a 090 degree heading and contact departure control. We switched to departure and advised them that we were turning to a 140 degree heading and would advise when we could turn back to a 090 degree heading. We remained VFR until we were established on the 140 degree heading. We never received a TCASII alert nor saw any aircraft close (1-2 mi) to our position. This occurrence would have been less confusing if we had coordinated a heading for WX before we started our takeoff roll.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FK10 CREW AVOIDED PENETRATING A TSTM IN C90 CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ON DEP WE WERE GIVEN A 090 DEG HDG WHICH WOULD HAVE TAKEN US INTO A TSTM CELL E OF THE FIELD. THIS CELL WAS PAINTING ON RADAR. WE ASKED FOR A L TURN TO AVOID THE CELL AND WERE TOLD NOT TO CONTINUE 090 DEGS AND GO TO DEP CTL. WE CAME WITHIN 3-5 MI OF THE CELL AND TURNED R TO 140 DEGS TO AVOID IT AND INFORMED DEP CTL OF OUR HDG. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TRIED TO COORDINATE A HDG WITH TWR PRIOR TO TKOF ROLL. NO TCASII ALERTS WERE RECEIVED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 481425: CLRED FOR TKOF AND INSTRUCTED TO FLY A 090 DEG HDG AFTER TKOF. WE ADVISED TWR AFTER LIFTOFF THAT WE WOULD NEED A HDG OF 060 DEGS TO AVOID WX (TSTM CELL SHOWING ON RADAR AND FROM COCKPIT). TWR ADVISED HE COULD NOT ASSIGN A 060 DEG HDG AND FOR US TO REMAIN ON A 090 DEG HDG AND CONTACT DEP CTL. WE SWITCHED TO DEP AND ADVISED THEM THAT WE WERE TURNING TO A 140 DEG HDG AND WOULD ADVISE WHEN WE COULD TURN BACK TO A 090 DEG HDG. WE REMAINED VFR UNTIL WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE 140 DEG HDG. WE NEVER RECEIVED A TCASII ALERT NOR SAW ANY ACFT CLOSE (1-2 MI) TO OUR POS. THIS OCCURRENCE WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS CONFUSING IF WE HAD COORDINATED A HDG FOR WX BEFORE WE STARTED OUR TKOF ROLL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.