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Visual approach to los angeles, with conflicting traffic an issue, results in a less than stable approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 483450 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200008 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tracon : p50.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 483449 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Approaching lax for runway 24L, we were kept slightly high to pass over an aircraft on a visual approach to runway 24R. When we were assured of clearance from, and visual contact with, the other aircraft, we were given a visual to runway 24L. While making sure we kept good visual separation from the other aircraft, our attention was drawn away from airspeed control and our airspeed was still fast at the 500 ft point -- although at touchdown, speed was normal. In hindsight, it would have been much more comfortable to discontinue the approach and come back for another, more stabilized approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VISUAL APCH TO LOS ANGELES, WITH CONFLICTING TFC AN ISSUE, RESULTS IN A LESS THAN STABLE APCH.
Narrative: APCHING LAX FOR RWY 24L, WE WERE KEPT SLIGHTLY HIGH TO PASS OVER AN ACFT ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R. WHEN WE WERE ASSURED OF CLRNC FROM, AND VISUAL CONTACT WITH, THE OTHER ACFT, WE WERE GIVEN A VISUAL TO RWY 24L. WHILE MAKING SURE WE KEPT GOOD VISUAL SEPARATION FROM THE OTHER ACFT, OUR ATTN WAS DRAWN AWAY FROM AIRSPD CTL AND OUR AIRSPD WAS STILL FAST AT THE 500 FT POINT -- ALTHOUGH AT TOUCHDOWN, SPD WAS NORMAL. IN HINDSIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE TO DISCONTINUE THE APCH AND COME BACK FOR ANOTHER, MORE STABILIZED APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.