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CL65 crew was not sure they received landing clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 484450 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200009 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : evv.airport |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : evv.tower tracon : p31.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 484450 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : evv.tower staffing : evv.tower |
Narrative:
Being vectored for approach. Giving IOE to first officer. Bad vector for turn on to ILS. 145 degree turn on to final intercept 'only after asking for turn on to final.' we think we were clear for approach and land from approach control, but when we got on ground, we were not sure. Controller were working ground, clearance, tower. I think we need to have 1 control for each frequency to cut down on who was cleared for what. We cannot hear other frequency clrncs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CREW WAS NOT SURE THEY RECEIVED LNDG CLRNC.
Narrative: BEING VECTORED FOR APCH. GIVING IOE TO FO. BAD VECTOR FOR TURN ON TO ILS. 145 DEG TURN ON TO FINAL INTERCEPT 'ONLY AFTER ASKING FOR TURN ON TO FINAL.' WE THINK WE WERE CLR FOR APCH AND LAND FROM APCH CTL, BUT WHEN WE GOT ON GND, WE WERE NOT SURE. CTLR WERE WORKING GND, CLRNC, TWR. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE 1 CTL FOR EACH FREQ TO CUT DOWN ON WHO WAS CLRED FOR WHAT. WE CANNOT HEAR OTHER FREQ CLRNCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.