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Attributes | |
ACN | 484938 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice Turbulence |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc tower : bkl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar instruction : trainee |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 10 |
ASRS Report | 484938 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar instruction : instructor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 18 controller time certified in position1 : 9 |
ASRS Report | 485600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Aircraft Y was given descent on initial contact and requested discretion, told to 'begin descent now and expect a restr.' aircraft X was climbing beneath another aircraft who reported ice and needed lower immediately. Radar associate trainee was very new, and him and trainer were not very helpful on pointing out emergency to approach. Meanwhile, I was spinning an arrival who also needed a pointout that had not been done. Aircraft Y was only descending at 500 FPM and was told to expedite turn. Aircraft X was told to expedite climb and turn. D-side cleared off a non radar departure and didn't advise me, automatic-acquired underneath another flight with the same altitude. Departure strip was not in the bay. My trainer said 'it's not working with aircraft's X and Y.' amended the altitudes, but they both had already gone through them. Supplemental information from acn 485600: training at cip sector ZOB (71) trainee fpl xferred from another facility with 4 out of 6 sectors already certified on, 10-15 hours experience at cip sector. Departures from pit inbound to pit which we were spinning one inbound for acceptance to pit. Departure off of dub airport within our sector that we work and up. Icing with another aircraft climbing in the departure flight path at pit, that needed a lower altitude. 16 data blocks on screen. Trainee was doing a good job until she forced the aircraft together. By the time she heard me say it wasn't going to work, stopping both aircraft, still it was too late.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB RADAR TRAINEE CTLR FAILED TO SEPARATE A DSNDING ACR FROM A CLBING ACR.
Narrative: ACFT Y WAS GIVEN DSCNT ON INITIAL CONTACT AND REQUESTED DISCRETION, TOLD TO 'BEGIN DSCNT NOW AND EXPECT A RESTR.' ACFT X WAS CLBING BENEATH ANOTHER ACFT WHO RPTED ICE AND NEEDED LOWER IMMEDIATELY. RADAR ASSOCIATE TRAINEE WAS VERY NEW, AND HIM AND TRAINER WERE NOT VERY HELPFUL ON POINTING OUT EMER TO APCH. MEANWHILE, I WAS SPINNING AN ARR WHO ALSO NEEDED A POINTOUT THAT HAD NOT BEEN DONE. ACFT Y WAS ONLY DSNDING AT 500 FPM AND WAS TOLD TO EXPEDITE TURN. ACFT X WAS TOLD TO EXPEDITE CLB AND TURN. D-SIDE CLRED OFF A NON RADAR DEP AND DIDN'T ADVISE ME, AUTO-ACQUIRED UNDERNEATH ANOTHER FLT WITH THE SAME ALT. DEP STRIP WAS NOT IN THE BAY. MY TRAINER SAID 'IT'S NOT WORKING WITH ACFT'S X AND Y.' AMENDED THE ALTS, BUT THEY BOTH HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH THEM. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 485600: TRAINING AT CIP SECTOR ZOB (71) TRAINEE FPL XFERRED FROM ANOTHER FACILITY WITH 4 OUT OF 6 SECTORS ALREADY CERTIFIED ON, 10-15 HRS EXPERIENCE AT CIP SECTOR. DEPS FROM PIT INBOUND TO PIT WHICH WE WERE SPINNING ONE INBOUND FOR ACCEPTANCE TO PIT. DEP OFF OF DUB ARPT WITHIN OUR SECTOR THAT WE WORK AND UP. ICING WITH ANOTHER ACFT CLBING IN THE DEP FLT PATH AT PIT, THAT NEEDED A LOWER ALT. 16 DATA BLOCKS ON SCREEN. TRAINEE WAS DOING A GOOD JOB UNTIL SHE FORCED THE ACFT TOGETHER. BY THE TIME SHE HEARD ME SAY IT WASN'T GOING TO WORK, STOPPING BOTH ACFT, STILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.