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Attributes | |
ACN | 487080 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : nip.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : jax.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 54 flight time total : 260 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 487080 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound to jax on V267 (my student and myself). We had flight following and had been handed off to jax approach. We were approximately 20 NM from crg VOR and jax approach asked us if we were ready to start a descent. We advised yes, but would have to deviate to the west to avoid a cloud layer below us. Approach granted the deviation and advised to go to at or above 2000 ft. We descended to 2000 ft near the st john's river. We could tell that we could not maintain cloud clrncs and descended to 1800 ft and called to notify jax approach. The controller approved. A few mins later we realized that we were in NAS jacksonville tower's airspace. We called up jax approach and asked for assistance with the class D airspace and got no response. I had the student take a northeast heading to take us out of the class D airspace. A few mins later jax approach called (we were near the large antennas southwest of crg) and gave us a vector to jax. Nothing was mentioned by jax approach about the deviation into the class D airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR, WITH STUDENT, IN CESSNA 172 INADVERTENTLY ENTERED CLASS D AIRSPACE AFTER DSNDING AND DEVIATING FROM WX DURING DUAL XCOUNTRY WITH FLT FOLLOWING.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND TO JAX ON V267 (MY STUDENT AND MYSELF). WE HAD FLT FOLLOWING AND HAD BEEN HANDED OFF TO JAX APCH. WE WERE APPROX 20 NM FROM CRG VOR AND JAX APCH ASKED US IF WE WERE READY TO START A DSCNT. WE ADVISED YES, BUT WOULD HAVE TO DEVIATE TO THE W TO AVOID A CLOUD LAYER BELOW US. APCH GRANTED THE DEV AND ADVISED TO GO TO AT OR ABOVE 2000 FT. WE DSNDED TO 2000 FT NEAR THE ST JOHN'S RIVER. WE COULD TELL THAT WE COULD NOT MAINTAIN CLOUD CLRNCS AND DSNDED TO 1800 FT AND CALLED TO NOTIFY JAX APCH. THE CTLR APPROVED. A FEW MINS LATER WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE IN NAS JACKSONVILLE TWR'S AIRSPACE. WE CALLED UP JAX APCH AND ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THE CLASS D AIRSPACE AND GOT NO RESPONSE. I HAD THE STUDENT TAKE A NE HEADING TO TAKE US OUT OF THE CLASS D AIRSPACE. A FEW MINS LATER JAX APCH CALLED (WE WERE NEAR THE LARGE ANTENNAS SW OF CRG) AND GAVE US A VECTOR TO JAX. NOTHING WAS MENTIONED BY JAX APCH ABOUT THE DEV INTO THE CLASS D AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.