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Attributes | |
ACN | 487193 |
Time | |
Date | 200009 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | ON |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 487193 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We got a descent to 8000 ft, and promptly descended to the new altitude after the readback. After a few mins, I became concerned that the call may not have been for us. I am still not entirely sure. The problem is that our call sign is 'abc.' there was another flight by the call sign 'ab' on the same frequency. We are often confused with 'abb,' 'acc,' 'acb,' 'aab,' and about 20 other things I don't care to list. I am becoming very concerned about our call sign, especially when operating in or near canada, where so many conflicting call signs exist. Every single time I have ever been there, we have been confused with someone. So far, none of this has resulted in immediate danger, but I can't help but feel that a different call sign would alleviate the constant potential for confusion which now exists.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARJ PLT CONCERNED WITH MULTIPLE, DIFFERING, SIMILAR COMPANY CALL SIGNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN OPERATING IN CANADIAN AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WE GOT A DSCNT TO 8000 FT, AND PROMPTLY DSNDED TO THE NEW ALT AFTER THE READBACK. AFTER A FEW MINS, I BECAME CONCERNED THAT THE CALL MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOR US. I AM STILL NOT ENTIRELY SURE. THE PROB IS THAT OUR CALL SIGN IS 'ABC.' THERE WAS ANOTHER FLT BY THE CALL SIGN 'AB' ON THE SAME FREQ. WE ARE OFTEN CONFUSED WITH 'ABB,' 'ACC,' 'ACB,' 'AAB,' AND ABOUT 20 OTHER THINGS I DON'T CARE TO LIST. I AM BECOMING VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CALL SIGN, ESPECIALLY WHEN OPERATING IN OR NEAR CANADA, WHERE SO MANY CONFLICTING CALL SIGNS EXIST. EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE EVER BEEN THERE, WE HAVE BEEN CONFUSED WITH SOMEONE. SO FAR, NONE OF THIS HAS RESULTED IN IMMEDIATE DANGER, BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT A DIFFERENT CALL SIGN WOULD ALLEVIATE THE CONSTANT POTENTIAL FOR CONFUSION WHICH NOW EXISTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.