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Attributes | |
ACN | 490730 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : aoh.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc tower : cos.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 490730 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 489798 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given a late descent out of FL210 to 11000 ft, which was dialed into the altitude pre-select box. In the descent the circuit breaker for the pilots 2 EFIS tubes were pulled for training purposes. This removed the altitude pre-select box with the proper altitude input. The descent was continued and the leveling altitude was decided, between the 2 pilots, to be 10000 ft. Once level, ZID questioned our leveling altitude. It was then told to us that the assigned altitude was 11000 ft not 10000 ft. After looking back on the event, once the known altitude was removed, due to the loss of power to the altitude pre-select, if there was any debate in the assigned altitude then the center controller should have been questioned immediately.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C525 CREW HAD ALT OVERSHOOT IN ZID CLASS E.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A LATE DSCNT OUT OF FL210 TO 11000 FT, WHICH WAS DIALED INTO THE ALT PRE-SELECT BOX. IN THE DSCNT THE CIRCUIT BREAKER FOR THE PLTS 2 EFIS TUBES WERE PULLED FOR TRAINING PURPOSES. THIS REMOVED THE ALT PRE-SELECT BOX WITH THE PROPER ALT INPUT. THE DSCNT WAS CONTINUED AND THE LEVELING ALT WAS DECIDED, BTWN THE 2 PLTS, TO BE 10000 FT. ONCE LEVEL, ZID QUESTIONED OUR LEVELING ALT. IT WAS THEN TOLD TO US THAT THE ASSIGNED ALT WAS 11000 FT NOT 10000 FT. AFTER LOOKING BACK ON THE EVENT, ONCE THE KNOWN ALT WAS REMOVED, DUE TO THE LOSS OF PWR TO THE ALT PRE-SELECT, IF THERE WAS ANY DEBATE IN THE ASSIGNED ALT THEN THE CTR CTLR SHOULD HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED IMMEDIATELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.