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Flight instructor, with student, in a cessna 172, finds tower controller complacent while doing traffic patterns for touch and go lndgs.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 491439 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200011 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : saf.airport |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : saf.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise : holding cruise : level descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 491439 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Our aircraft (C172RG) did approximately 10 patterns and touch and go's. Other traffic varied from O-3 other planes in various patterns to the same runway 20. Tower controller: 1) consistently delayed many seconds in replying to most radio calls. 2) consistently failed to specify runway in clrncs. 3) repeatedly requested aircraft in patterns to do 720 degree turns on downwind for spacing. (Extended downwinds, short approachs, etc, would have been easier and safer for all.) 4) gave every impression he was not actually watching traffic. Once he even claimed he had no way of knowing we were doing the 720 degrees he'd requested, while we were halfway through it directly in front of the tower! 5) made no effort to interleave traffic efficiently, causing unnecessary delays.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR, WITH STUDENT, IN A CESSNA 172, FINDS TWR CTLR COMPLACENT WHILE DOING TFC PATTERNS FOR TOUCH AND GO LNDGS.
Narrative: OUR ACFT (C172RG) DID APPROX 10 PATTERNS AND TOUCH AND GO'S. OTHER TFC VARIED FROM O-3 OTHER PLANES IN VARIOUS PATTERNS TO THE SAME RWY 20. TWR CTLR: 1) CONSISTENTLY DELAYED MANY SECONDS IN REPLYING TO MOST RADIO CALLS. 2) CONSISTENTLY FAILED TO SPECIFY RWY IN CLRNCS. 3) REPEATEDLY REQUESTED ACFT IN PATTERNS TO DO 720 DEG TURNS ON DOWNWIND FOR SPACING. (EXTENDED DOWNWINDS, SHORT APCHS, ETC, WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER AND SAFER FOR ALL.) 4) GAVE EVERY IMPRESSION HE WAS NOT ACTUALLY WATCHING TFC. ONCE HE EVEN CLAIMED HE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING WE WERE DOING THE 720 DEGS HE'D REQUESTED, WHILE WE WERE HALFWAY THROUGH IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE TWR! 5) MADE NO EFFORT TO INTERLEAVE TFC EFFICIENTLY, CAUSING UNNECESSARY DELAYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.