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Air carrier crew notified that they were being investigated for altitude overshoot. Clearance is at issue.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 491753 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200011 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zid.artcc |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : j45.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 8800 |
| ASRS Report | 491753 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : investigated other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
The FAA was intending to issue a letter of investigation for what they represented was an altitude deviation which had occurred on nov/xa/00. It is alleged that they had cleared flight Z of which I was the first officer on a flight from bna to jax, to FL280, and that the altitude was exceeded without further clearance. I remember our having been asked to descend to FL280, which we did. My recollection is that we were cleared to a higher altitude, and that we were issued an amended clearance after having passed FL280. We took no particular note of the occurrence at the time. Had we thought there was an altitude deviation at the time, we would have discussed the mater and filed reports. We both thought the flight was routine. Further note: I recall having to reset the MCP to cruise at the requested altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CREW NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ALT OVERSHOOT. CLRNC IS AT ISSUE.
Narrative: THE FAA WAS INTENDING TO ISSUE A LETTER OF INVESTIGATION FOR WHAT THEY REPRESENTED WAS AN ALTDEV WHICH HAD OCCURRED ON NOV/XA/00. IT IS ALLEGED THAT THEY HAD CLRED FLT Z OF WHICH I WAS THE FO ON A FLT FROM BNA TO JAX, TO FL280, AND THAT THE ALT WAS EXCEEDED WITHOUT FURTHER CLRNC. I REMEMBER OUR HAVING BEEN ASKED TO DSND TO FL280, WHICH WE DID. MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE WERE CLRED TO A HIGHER ALT, AND THAT WE WERE ISSUED AN AMENDED CLRNC AFTER HAVING PASSED FL280. WE TOOK NO PARTICULAR NOTE OF THE OCCURRENCE AT THE TIME. HAD WE THOUGHT THERE WAS AN ALTDEV AT THE TIME, WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSED THE MATER AND FILED RPTS. WE BOTH THOUGHT THE FLT WAS ROUTINE. FURTHER NOTE: I RECALL HAVING TO RESET THE MCP TO CRUISE AT THE REQUESTED ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.