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Attributes | |
ACN | 492360 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32200 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 492360 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4600 |
ASRS Report | 492137 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ZID gave us a descent from FL370 to FL300 (that's what we read back) then a frequency change. Next controller was very busy, I reported out of FL335 for FL300. At FL322 they called back and said, we were only cleared to FL330. Controller gave us a turn to left 180 degrees and asked us to say altitude. We were at FL330. Controller said we have traffic at 7 mi and 2000 ft below us, and told us to go on course. (No TA's or RA's) we feel we have a big gap in our 'CRM.' we just came from a very busy airport around new york. Once we got into a familiar area we got complacent. Both of us missed that FL300 was wrong. Supplemental information from acn 492137: we always have the PNF work the radios. The PF always sets the heading bug and verifies inputs to the FMS, however, the PNF is the sole manipulator of the altitude selector knob. This fact points out that if the PNF makes an error in selection, the PF may not catch it. Check and balance is gone. Also, for this particular case it should have been obvious to us that an error on our part was made (because of the fact that FL300 is not used).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC MISINTERPRETED CLRNC AND DEVIATED FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: ZID GAVE US A DSCNT FROM FL370 TO FL300 (THAT'S WHAT WE READ BACK) THEN A FREQ CHANGE. NEXT CTLR WAS VERY BUSY, I RPTED OUT OF FL335 FOR FL300. AT FL322 THEY CALLED BACK AND SAID, WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO FL330. CTLR GAVE US A TURN TO L 180 DEGS AND ASKED US TO SAY ALT. WE WERE AT FL330. CTLR SAID WE HAVE TFC AT 7 MI AND 2000 FT BELOW US, AND TOLD US TO GO ON COURSE. (NO TA'S OR RA'S) WE FEEL WE HAVE A BIG GAP IN OUR 'CRM.' WE JUST CAME FROM A VERY BUSY ARPT AROUND NEW YORK. ONCE WE GOT INTO A FAMILIAR AREA WE GOT COMPLACENT. BOTH OF US MISSED THAT FL300 WAS WRONG. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 492137: WE ALWAYS HAVE THE PNF WORK THE RADIOS. THE PF ALWAYS SETS THE HEADING BUG AND VERIFIES INPUTS TO THE FMS, HOWEVER, THE PNF IS THE SOLE MANIPULATOR OF THE ALT SELECTOR KNOB. THIS FACT POINTS OUT THAT IF THE PNF MAKES AN ERROR IN SELECTION, THE PF MAY NOT CATCH IT. CHK AND BAL IS GONE. ALSO, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS TO US THAT AN ERROR ON OUR PART WAS MADE (BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT FL300 IS NOT USED).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.