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Attributes | |
ACN | 493490 |
Time | |
Date | 200011 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : atl.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10800 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 6500 |
ASRS Report | 493490 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1047 |
ASRS Report | 493492 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying the arrival to atl when approach control requested a rapid speed reduction from 300 KIAS to 210 KIAS. Autoplt was engaged in level flight mode and was maintaining altitude. First officer deployed 20 degrees speed brakes and set idle power to expedite speed reduction. Initially, altitude decreased about 50 ft, which is not unusual during speed changes with the block V autoplt. Then, altitude loss began to increase. When 100 ft low, I directed first officer to disconnect the autoplt, stow speed brake, and return to 11000 ft. When the autoplt was disconnected, the first officer encountered large down elevator force and lost another 100 ft while adjusting to the stick forces. He was already making a nice recovery to 11000 ft when atl approach advised we had traffic less than 1 mi at 10000 ft. Approach asked us to confirm our 11000 ft assignment, which we did. Wrote up autoplt for repair. Supplemental information from acn 493492: on the arrival to atl we were cleared to descend to 10000 ft and the aircraft was on autoplt at 300 KIAS. Just after initiating the descent, we were asked by approach control to also slow during the descent to 210 KIAS. The aircraft was already at idle power, so I extended the spoilers to maintain our descent and also slow down. The altitude capture feature of the autoplt was engaged to automatically level off at the desired altitude. As the aircraft approached the leveloff altitude, the autoplt began to raise the pitch attitude and the autoplt status light turned to green indicating that the autoplt was leveling off. Due to the out of trim condition, the aircraft descended to approximately 300 ft below assigned altitude. After the flight, the aircraft autoplt was written up in the logbook for not trimming the aircraft correctly and not capturing the altitude as it should have.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 FLC EXPERIENCES AN ALT LOSS OF 200 FT AND A POTENTIAL CONFLICT DURING A REQUESTED SPD REDUCTION FROM ATC 10 MI NW OF ATL, GA.
Narrative: THE FO WAS FLYING THE ARR TO ATL WHEN APCH CTL REQUESTED A RAPID SPD REDUCTION FROM 300 KIAS TO 210 KIAS. AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED IN LEVEL FLT MODE AND WAS MAINTAINING ALT. FO DEPLOYED 20 DEGS SPD BRAKES AND SET IDLE PWR TO EXPEDITE SPD REDUCTION. INITIALLY, ALT DECREASED ABOUT 50 FT, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL DURING SPD CHANGES WITH THE BLOCK V AUTOPLT. THEN, ALT LOSS BEGAN TO INCREASE. WHEN 100 FT LOW, I DIRECTED FO TO DISCONNECT THE AUTOPLT, STOW SPD BRAKE, AND RETURN TO 11000 FT. WHEN THE AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED, THE FO ENCOUNTERED LARGE DOWN ELEVATOR FORCE AND LOST ANOTHER 100 FT WHILE ADJUSTING TO THE STICK FORCES. HE WAS ALREADY MAKING A NICE RECOVERY TO 11000 FT WHEN ATL APCH ADVISED WE HAD TFC LESS THAN 1 MI AT 10000 FT. APCH ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR 11000 FT ASSIGNMENT, WHICH WE DID. WROTE UP AUTOPLT FOR REPAIR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 493492: ON THE ARR TO ATL WE WERE CLRED TO DSND TO 10000 FT AND THE ACFT WAS ON AUTOPLT AT 300 KIAS. JUST AFTER INITIATING THE DSCNT, WE WERE ASKED BY APCH CTL TO ALSO SLOW DURING THE DSCNT TO 210 KIAS. THE ACFT WAS ALREADY AT IDLE PWR, SO I EXTENDED THE SPOILERS TO MAINTAIN OUR DSCNT AND ALSO SLOW DOWN. THE ALT CAPTURE FEATURE OF THE AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED TO AUTOMATICALLY LEVEL OFF AT THE DESIRED ALT. AS THE ACFT APCHED THE LEVELOFF ALT, THE AUTOPLT BEGAN TO RAISE THE PITCH ATTITUDE AND THE AUTOPLT STATUS LIGHT TURNED TO GREEN INDICATING THAT THE AUTOPLT WAS LEVELING OFF. DUE TO THE OUT OF TRIM CONDITION, THE ACFT DSNDED TO APPROX 300 FT BELOW ASSIGNED ALT. AFTER THE FLT, THE ACFT AUTOPLT WAS WRITTEN UP IN THE LOGBOOK FOR NOT TRIMMING THE ACFT CORRECTLY AND NOT CAPTURING THE ALT AS IT SHOULD HAVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.