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Attributes | |
ACN | 494150 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pae.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc tower : msp.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 494150 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
ASRS Report | 493974 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying as safety pilot. We were cleared to cross the pae VOR at 4000 ft on the 340 degree radial, and to expect approach clearance (VOR-B) in 5 mi. About 8 mi north, center asked if we were still on the frequency and called traffic. I responded and also asked when we could expect our approach clearance. Center responded that we had been cleared 7 mi ago, our approach clearance was canceled and to start our procedure turn. The PF started the turn and a descent to 2000 ft. A caught the descent at about 3500 ft and had him ask center if we were cleared to descend. Center told us to maintain 2000 ft. Both of us are certain we were not cleared for the approach. We did not read back an approach clearance. However we should not have left 4000 ft for 2000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LIGHT ACFT PLT AND OBSERVER MISSED HEARING APCH CLRNC.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AS SAFETY PLT. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS THE PAE VOR AT 4000 FT ON THE 340 DEG RADIAL, AND TO EXPECT APCH CLRNC (VOR-B) IN 5 MI. ABOUT 8 MI N, CTR ASKED IF WE WERE STILL ON THE FREQ AND CALLED TFC. I RESPONDED AND ALSO ASKED WHEN WE COULD EXPECT OUR APCH CLRNC. CTR RESPONDED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED 7 MI AGO, OUR APCH CLRNC WAS CANCELED AND TO START OUR PROC TURN. THE PF STARTED THE TURN AND A DSCNT TO 2000 FT. A CAUGHT THE DSCNT AT ABOUT 3500 FT AND HAD HIM ASK CTR IF WE WERE CLRED TO DSND. CTR TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 2000 FT. BOTH OF US ARE CERTAIN WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR THE APCH. WE DID NOT READ BACK AN APCH CLRNC. HOWEVER WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LEFT 4000 FT FOR 2000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.