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Attributes | |
ACN | 495250 |
Time | |
Date | 200012 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zkc.artcc |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc tracon : ict.tracon tracon : mci.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise : level descent : approach ground : taxi landing : roll |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 495250 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Jut what is part 135 flight? What is a flight into known icing conditions? This flight was questioned by some other person. I believe this was a part 91 flight. I understand that if the other party rents and pays for the aircraft, that I can fly this plane for them. There was some ice on approach (didn't cause any problems). There was no report of ice in the WX briefing, or was any reported to me. We need clrer guidelines for just what is part 135 and icing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A BEECH BARON B358 EXPERIENCED ICING DURING APCH CAUSING NO PROBS, BUT SOMEONE QUESTIONED HIS LEGAL STATUS OF FLYING INTO ICING AND THAT THE OP COULD POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL OP.
Narrative: JUT WHAT IS PART 135 FLT? WHAT IS A FLT INTO KNOWN ICING CONDITIONS? THIS FLT WAS QUESTIONED BY SOME OTHER PERSON. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A PART 91 FLT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE OTHER PARTY RENTS AND PAYS FOR THE ACFT, THAT I CAN FLY THIS PLANE FOR THEM. THERE WAS SOME ICE ON APCH (DIDN'T CAUSE ANY PROBS). THERE WAS NO RPT OF ICE IN THE WX BRIEFING, OR WAS ANY RPTED TO ME. WE NEED CLRER GUIDELINES FOR JUST WHAT IS PART 135 AND ICING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.